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    <title><![CDATA[Comments on: 《奋斗》之父子争执片段]]></title>
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    <description><![CDATA[常常听说“三岁一代沟”。相差三岁就会有代沟，那父亲和儿子差不多有10个代沟，他们的想法、做法肯定会有不同。最近热播的《奋斗》是一部讲述80后生活的电视剧，我们节选了一段父亲和儿子的对话，一起来品味一下吧。<br /><br />

</strong>来源链接：</strong><a href="http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_cd00XMTkxNzI0OTI=.html">奋斗</a> ]]></description>
    <pubDate>2008-05-08 18:00:00</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: guolanusa]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77699]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[在美国我们有一个说法,"我越老,我的父母越聪明". 意思是,年轻的时候,亲身生活经历比较少,可能很难看清楚老人有什么智慧. 自己老了一些, 会开始发现父母真是有经历的,真是有生活常识的. 自己老了以后,真可以看清楚,真愿意承认,亲身通过生活真会增加人的智慧. 

老师们,谢谢你们,这个课程很好完儿,很有用!]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[在美国我们有一个说法,"我越老,我的父母越聪明". 意思是,年轻的时候,亲身生活经历比较少,可能很难看清楚老人有什么智慧. 自己老了一些, 会开始发现父母真是有经历的,真是有生活常识的. 自己老了以后,真可以看清楚,真愿意承认,亲身通过生活真会增加人的智慧. 

老师们,谢谢你们,这个课程很好完儿,很有用!]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: shanghighroller]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77700]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[goulanusa, 还有一句很经典的话，美国作家Mark Twain 说的： ”我18岁离乡背井的时候，骂我爸爸笨蛋。28岁回家看他，很吃惊的发现，过了十年，他就聪明多了！“ 

今天课程确实很不错，不过好像图片里的文字有些不太对吧。]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[goulanusa, 还有一句很经典的话，美国作家Mark Twain 说的： ”我18岁离乡背井的时候，骂我爸爸笨蛋。28岁回家看他，很吃惊的发现，过了十年，他就聪明多了！“ 

今天课程确实很不错，不过好像图片里的文字有些不太对吧。]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: jennyzhu]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77726]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[shanghairoller,
是错了，应该是“代沟”。可能我最近老在淘宝上帮人“代购”东西，Freudian slip. 我们马上改过来。谢谢！

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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[shanghairoller,
是错了，应该是“代沟”。可能我最近老在淘宝上帮人“代购”东西，Freudian slip. 我们马上改过来。谢谢！

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        <title><![CDATA[By: chinkerfly]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77768]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[chinkerfly]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[我看过奋斗的1到17集可是不知道为什么越看越不想继续看下去。我总觉得里面的人物都好假。:( 可能因为我听北京话听得头疼。 呵呵]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[我看过奋斗的1到17集可是不知道为什么越看越不想继续看下去。我总觉得里面的人物都好假。:( 可能因为我听北京话听得头疼。 呵呵]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: light487]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77778]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[I wish I could understand at this level.. it sounds like Connie and Jenny are having so much fun. :( I know it's only been 2 months of learning but I so very much want to understand....
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I wish I could understand at this level.. it sounds like Connie and Jenny are having so much fun. :( I know it's only been 2 months of learning but I so very much want to understand....
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        <title><![CDATA[By: auntie68]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You will, Luke, you will...]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You will, Luke, you will...]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[小时候我以为长大之后肯定会成为个聪明的大人，
四十年前的我相信人是年龄越大越有智慧的存在。
孔子说过吾十有五而志于学三十而立四十而不惑
五十而知天命六十而耳顺七十而从心所欲不逾矩。

十五岁时的我不但不志于学反而对学问感到厌恶，
我三十而立时也没有本事或者没有巩固的立足点，
当我四十不惑时才开始跳槽每天都是犹豫的日子。
我快知命之年倒不知天命并且随心所欲容易逾矩。

我老父母亲总叹息说你这个儿子怎么那么没出息，
我们两口子年轻时就整天拼命地工作比你更卖力!
古埃及很早就有一句话叫当代年轻人真是没办法，
我怀疑在殷墟发现的甲骨文也可能有类似的记载。

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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[小时候我以为长大之后肯定会成为个聪明的大人，
四十年前的我相信人是年龄越大越有智慧的存在。
孔子说过吾十有五而志于学三十而立四十而不惑
五十而知天命六十而耳顺七十而从心所欲不逾矩。

十五岁时的我不但不志于学反而对学问感到厌恶，
我三十而立时也没有本事或者没有巩固的立足点，
当我四十不惑时才开始跳槽每天都是犹豫的日子。
我快知命之年倒不知天命并且随心所欲容易逾矩。

我老父母亲总叹息说你这个儿子怎么那么没出息，
我们两口子年轻时就整天拼命地工作比你更卖力!
古埃及很早就有一句话叫当代年轻人真是没办法，
我怀疑在殷墟发现的甲骨文也可能有类似的记载。

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        <title><![CDATA[By: jennyzhu]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[chinkerfly,
我也觉得“奋斗”的人物不太真实。我一个朋友说，这部戏把80后写得好像脑子进水了。]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[chinkerfly,
我也觉得“奋斗”的人物不太真实。我一个朋友说，这部戏把80后写得好像脑子进水了。]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: shensw]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[shensw]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[我认为父母和子女间的代沟是无可避免的，因为我们出生和成长的环境、所受的教育都不尽相同。我也曾为此困扰过。但现在我不再要求父母一定要像朋友一样理解我。父母毕竟不是朋友。有了这样的想法，我与父母的相处变得平和得多，我也比以前更开心一些。我想我的父母也轻松了吧。]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[我认为父母和子女间的代沟是无可避免的，因为我们出生和成长的环境、所受的教育都不尽相同。我也曾为此困扰过。但现在我不再要求父母一定要像朋友一样理解我。父母毕竟不是朋友。有了这样的想法，我与父母的相处变得平和得多，我也比以前更开心一些。我想我的父母也轻松了吧。]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: shensw]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[shensw]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think the generation gap can not be avoided between parents and child. Because the environment we were born and growing up and education are different. I was also feazed about it. Now I do not ask my parents to understand me like my friends. Parents is not friend. Since I think like that, the relations of my parents and I becomes peace. I am happier than before. I think my parents are relaxed too.]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think the generation gap can not be avoided between parents and child. Because the environment we were born and growing up and education are different. I was also feazed about it. Now I do not ask my parents to understand me like my friends. Parents is not friend. Since I think like that, the relations of my parents and I becomes peace. I am happier than before. I think my parents are relaxed too.]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: guolanusa]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[guolanusa]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm trying to find an English translation of the Kongzi saying changye quoted ("When I was 15...") but am not having any luck.  Would anyone be willing to take a stab at translating it into English?  Or maybe someone knows of a web-site that where I could find it?  Thank you for any help in advance!]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm trying to find an English translation of the Kongzi saying changye quoted ("When I was 15...") but am not having any luck.  Would anyone be willing to take a stab at translating it into English?  Or maybe someone knows of a web-site that where I could find it?  Thank you for any help in advance!]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: auntie68]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E3%80%8A%E5%A5%8B%E6%96%97%E3%80%8B%E4%B9%8B%E7%88%B6%E5%AD%90%E4%BA%89%E6%89%A7%E7%89%87%E6%AE%B5/discussion#comment-77873]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[Here's an English translation lifted straight from "Everyday Chinese" Brighter Readings in Classical Chinese":

At fifteen, I had my mind bent on learning.
At thirty, I stood firm.
At forty, I had no doubts.
At fifty, I knew the decrees of Heaven.
At sixty, my ears became an obedient organ for the reception of truth.
At seventy, I could follow what my heart desired, without transgressing what was right.

Happy weekend...]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here's an English translation lifted straight from "Everyday Chinese" Brighter Readings in Classical Chinese":

At fifteen, I had my mind bent on learning.
At thirty, I stood firm.
At forty, I had no doubts.
At fifty, I knew the decrees of Heaven.
At sixty, my ears became an obedient organ for the reception of truth.
At seventy, I could follow what my heart desired, without transgressing what was right.

Happy weekend...]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[changye]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hi guolanusa,

http://www.confucius.org/main01.htm]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi guolanusa,

http://www.confucius.org/main01.htm]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[changye]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hi guolanusa,

This is the verse you are looking for.

http://www.confucius.org/lunyu/ed0204.htm]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi guolanusa,

This is the verse you are looking for.

http://www.confucius.org/lunyu/ed0204.htm]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: guolanusa]]></title>
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        <author><![CDATA[guolanusa]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Wow, thank you auntie68 and changye!  ]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Wow, thank you auntie68 and changye!  ]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: tsack]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the lesson and the great link, changye. very interesting. I plan to read more..]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the lesson and the great link, changye. very interesting. I plan to read more..]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: ruoyi909]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[For those of us who are more intermediate but trying to stretch ourselves by listening to these:

Maybe we could post somewhere our very rough descriptions of what we *think* we heard?  and have you advanced folks verify?

Thoughts?]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[For those of us who are more intermediate but trying to stretch ourselves by listening to these:

Maybe we could post somewhere our very rough descriptions of what we *think* we heard?  and have you advanced folks verify?

Thoughts?]]></content:encoded>
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