或者，可能说：

我希望后面没有“后排驾驶员”

这句话我没听懂。。。

噢，我找它 。。在17m46s

其实我用“非典型”这个词形容我自己也有点儿不舒服。一方面，听起来不太谦虚，另一方面一听到“非典型”这个词就会联想到SARS！

of course, english has such acronyms brought over from other languages, like "gestapo" for example. if you ask an american what gestapo means, they can tell you, but as to 'why' it means what it means, they cannot. as a native english speaker i can tell you straight up that upon investigation english is a total mess and hardly makes any sense. we've integrated all kinds of different languages into english, for example, Latin. good luck finding native english speakers that know any Latin. this to me is a huge difference from chinese and english, and really a strong point for chinese.

i recently had a discussion with a chinese friend about the use of chinese acronyms, and she mentioned that the CCP recently made a new rule disallowing the use of english acronyms in official language (like news reports etc). i think that's a great idea, although i know most chinese people think the rule is lame. in the long run, this will preserve the purity, beauty of sound, and deep foundation of logic that chinese is built on.

in this lesson, they use "4S", amongst other acronyms. just think about how 4S doesn't really make any sense to a chinese person unless their english is good. yes, they know 'what' it means, but they don't know 'why' it means that. i think the price one pays to say things faster, or to sound cool and hip to foreign words just really comes off as 崇洋媚外 and in the end just isn't really worth it.

also the english acronyms used in chinese don't make any sense in english. "4S" has absolutely no meaning in english.  i guessed it meant "4 stars". there are so many problems with this. first, you already have a way to say it in your own language but choose not to, second, the word doesn't even make sense in the language it came from, then people from both parties don't even understand it.

the use of 'man' here is totally awkward because 'man' is a noun, not a verb. it's a glaring error in english to use a noun as a verb (it would be like saying the tones all wrong in chinese). this would be like saying to a guy 你很衰, instead of 你很帅.

it would basically be impossible to get a native english person to speak with this kind of english because it just sounds illiterate. it's not entirely the fault of chinese though, it usually comes from taiwan... taiwanese are the masters of using english nouns as adjectives. i know they also like to say "over" without any context to mean something like 完了, but we don't use this word in this way at all. i think chinese usually get this nonsense from taiwanese, who have this sort of culture where if your english is cool, then you're really cool. lots of pop songs in taiwan have a fully english chorus, whereas the verses are in chinese. same in k-pop and j-pop.

sometimes i can understand all of what a chinese person is saying EXCEPT that one little part that was in english, my native language! some koreans who are born in the u.s. and speak korean with their parents as kids also can't understand some newer korean slang because it's just bad english. pretty funny.

if chinese people are using random english words you can basically assume there is going to be something wrong with it, like a verb used as a noun or a noun used as an adjective, or even a word that they think means one thing but actually means nothing or something completely unrelated to their point. all of this is pretty frustrating for an english speaker, but let's imagine you are a native french speaker or native russian speaker and want to understand this phenomena. you couldn't fully make sense of it.

don't get me wrong, i love chinese, just not really excited about the chinglish unless i'm joking with my chinese friends.

好的,我们开一个debate吧。

Anyway, 4S isn't an acronym, it's a representation of an acronym, which means "sales, spare parts, service, surveys". Although, while you missed this point, you're still right that it doesn't make much sense. I'm not sure why a car dealership wouldn't specialize in sales, and it seems so redundant to emphasize this. I don't know how surveys fits in either, because I certainly don't enjoy doing surveys. Perhaps it means that they survey the car before they sell it to you.

Once my wife and I were taking a bus from our Hotel on the outskirts of Rome to the city center and saw an amazing movie poster. This was in 2001 and there was an American film entitled "Loving Laura." As we neared the city center we saw posters for the film everywhere, and yes, "F-ing Laura," was the name of the film. The F word was correctly spelled by the way.

So, yes, English will creep into other languages, and Mandarin Chinese will also creep into English by he way. Nearly all of the grammar schools here have Chinese classes as do most of the high schools. I'm sure 你好 will be heard everywhere. 你好 dude, what's up?

about fighting battles though, it's not really my battle to fight, just an observation. of course, chinese can do whatever they want with they're language. i wouldn't say it's a losing battle. just because you're exposed a lot to another language doesn't mean you have to integrate it into yours. i don't see any point in speaking chinglish because i am exposed to chinese a lot. i think fighting against simplification is pointless (at this point in the game anyways), but fighting against english-ification is worth fighting for, even the CCP seems to think so.

like putao said, cross-pollination will happen, but to what extent seems like a socio-political issue and in my opinion can be controlled to a certain extent.

There is one exception and that is if the discussion is technical, i. e., about computing, then many English "computer speak" words are used in these discussions. The French have adapted them to simplify doing business even among themselves. I still keep these to a minimum.

As for Mandarin, I'm still at the stage where pure Mandarin is what I read, write and speak. I imagine I'll stay that way too.

“十五percent” would completely confuse me! But, then again, "percent十五" is even weirder. I'll stick with 百分之十五 ...

我有时候听台湾广播看台湾电视据，他们说的外来语比中国人说的来外语说的多，不知道是不是因为台湾比大陆独立或台湾美国关系。

One also sees this phenomena in fashion magazines, advertisements, modern novels, etc.. and as I mentioned "American computer speak" is common. We, my wife and I, have been to France more than 40 times, and observed these small changes since about 1990.

不过我在这里可以看台湾电视。我要试试找到外来语 ...

Finally, if the general french population don't want to adopt some new words promoted by the French Academy, this words will simply disappear.

4S, 3C, 还有一个台湾主持人叫「小S」

我觉得这个模式很有趣

I heard it was 29%: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_French_origin

In 浙江的溫州 young people still prefer to say 唱歌 instead of 唱k or 唱ktv to the point where if I would say "ktv" they would correct me.