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    <title><![CDATA[Comments on: Fat Camp]]></title>
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    <description><![CDATA[A few months of everything fried combined with Chinese hospitality (read: feed) is enough to start anyone on a one-way trip to fat camp.  Listen to this podcast and learn about one poor junk food lover's untimely demise into the shady world of carrots and wheatgrass.]]></description>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: sfrrr]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fat-camp/discussion#comment-86943]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the perfect lesson for someone who just ate a quarter of a bag of Dutch soft licorice this afternoon. Definitely not touchi. That bag sits on my desk completely open to prying--or hungry--eyes.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the perfect lesson for someone who just ate a quarter of a bag of Dutch soft licorice this afternoon. Definitely not touchi. That bag sits on my desk completely open to prying--or hungry--eyes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: huoyuanjia]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fat-camp/discussion#comment-86944]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>if everyone in China eats so much fried oily food, why is it that over here in China pretty much every chinese girl&nbsp;has an amazing figure....10x better than pretty much everywhere else in the world<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">? </span></span>i was sad&nbsp;last time&nbsp;i went back to Australia and a fine figure was rare,&nbsp;pang4zi were everywhere.</p>
<p>are the chinese well disiplined...or does the fat go straight through them with an evolution&nbsp;refined&nbsp;over the many&nbsp;thousands of&nbsp;chinese history<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>
<p>is it something us in the west are missing<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>
<p>or am I&nbsp;just imagining this whole thing<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if everyone in China eats so much fried oily food, why is it that over here in China pretty much every chinese girl&nbsp;has an amazing figure....10x better than pretty much everywhere else in the world<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">? </span></span>i was sad&nbsp;last time&nbsp;i went back to Australia and a fine figure was rare,&nbsp;pang4zi were everywhere.</p>
<p>are the chinese well disiplined...or does the fat go straight through them with an evolution&nbsp;refined&nbsp;over the many&nbsp;thousands of&nbsp;chinese history<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>
<p>is it something us in the west are missing<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>
<p>or am I&nbsp;just imagining this whole thing<span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">?</span></span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: ngarrity791]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yea I hear you mate, the girls here definately have better figures than the ones back home. Maybe its the lower food sanitary levels that keeps the food from sticking around in your body too long. In one minute, out the next...</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea I hear you mate, the girls here definately have better figures than the ones back home. Maybe its the lower food sanitary levels that keeps the food from sticking around in your body too long. In one minute, out the next...</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>My chubby dog basically eats everything including potato chips, but not an apple. I always tell her, "Which do you like better, Billy's boot camp or a dog meat restaurant? " I'll have my dog listen to today's lesson tonight.</p>
<p>我家的小狗胖得真像小猪，每天从早到晚吃个不停，怎么吃也吃不够，老是很饿的样子。我快要破产了，怎么办呢？</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My chubby dog basically eats everything including potato chips, but not an apple. I always tell her, "Which do you like better, Billy's boot camp or a dog meat restaurant? " I'll have my dog listen to today's lesson tonight.</p>
<p>我家的小狗胖得真像小猪，每天从早到晚吃个不停，怎么吃也吃不够，老是很饿的样子。我快要破产了，怎么办呢？</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: brims]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>what do kids do at fat camp in China?&nbsp; do they get to play sports and do lots of outdoor activities, or is more like boot camp for kids?</p>
<p>what's&nbsp;fat camp&nbsp;like in other countries?</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do kids do at fat camp in China?&nbsp; do they get to play sports and do lots of outdoor activities, or is more like boot camp for kids?</p>
<p>what's&nbsp;fat camp&nbsp;like in other countries?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: jennyzhu]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I came cross an article recently which said meat is a condiment in Chinese diet whereas in many Western diets, it's the centerpiece of a meal. Such a revealing observation but one I've taken for granted. In the Chinese mind, meat is inherently viewed and consumed as the highlight of a meal, but a highlight only not entirety. Maybe that's why our meat dishes are diced or sliced meat, rarely a chunky slab. That evokes another diet habit: portion control, balance and moderation.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came cross an article recently which said meat is a condiment in Chinese diet whereas in many Western diets, it's the centerpiece of a meal. Such a revealing observation but one I've taken for granted. In the Chinese mind, meat is inherently viewed and consumed as the highlight of a meal, but a highlight only not entirety. Maybe that's why our meat dishes are diced or sliced meat, rarely a chunky slab. That evokes another diet habit: portion control, balance and moderation.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>What Jenny wrote is right. Seriously, meat is actually only a condiment in Chinese diet recently due to a crazy price hike in meat, which started last year!</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Jenny wrote is right. Seriously, meat is actually only a condiment in Chinese diet recently due to a crazy price hike in meat, which started last year!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: songyian]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Is that picture from a <span onclick="onWordClick()" onmouseover="tip(event,'to train','xun4lian4','训练','訓練')" onmouseout="htip()">训练</span><span onclick="onWordClick()" onmouseover="tip(event,'camp','ying2','营','營')" onmouseout="htip()">营? As a Chinese person myself, I've always felt I've been genetically predisposed not to gain weight. But of course, it would be unfair to say most Chinese are like this. Given the right unhealthy diet, anyone can become 胖. My impression, while in China, was that whenever someone (by which I mean girls) said they were going on a diet, it meant they were going to try to eat less.</span></p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that picture from a <span onclick="onWordClick()" onmouseover="tip(event,'to train','xun4lian4','训练','訓練')" onmouseout="htip()">训练</span><span onclick="onWordClick()" onmouseover="tip(event,'camp','ying2','营','營')" onmouseout="htip()">营? As a Chinese person myself, I've always felt I've been genetically predisposed not to gain weight. But of course, it would be unfair to say most Chinese are like this. Given the right unhealthy diet, anyone can become 胖. My impression, while in China, was that whenever someone (by which I mean girls) said they were going on a diet, it meant they were going to try to eat less.</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: dukwei]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! awesome lesson as always. think this is the only the 2nd/3rd message i've posted, but i listen to all the intermediates and think i need to move on to upper-int since it seems like the intermediates are getting toned down.</p>
<p>as a ABC that used to be tip the scale @ 200lbs @ 5'7", i can totally relate to this lesson.</p>
<p>as for why asian girls are skinnier... i agree w/ jenny on the moderation/balance theory. plus i'm assuming chinese girls walk around to get from pt A ---&gt; B as opposed to westerners who just sit on our butts all day.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! awesome lesson as always. think this is the only the 2nd/3rd message i've posted, but i listen to all the intermediates and think i need to move on to upper-int since it seems like the intermediates are getting toned down.</p>
<p>as a ABC that used to be tip the scale @ 200lbs @ 5'7", i can totally relate to this lesson.</p>
<p>as for why asian girls are skinnier... i agree w/ jenny on the moderation/balance theory. plus i'm assuming chinese girls walk around to get from pt A ---&gt; B as opposed to westerners who just sit on our butts all day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: theblindseer]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Many of our eating habits are learnt in childhood. &nbsp;The adults of China today mostly grew up in leaner times. The waistlines of the Chinese may be different as the current one child generation grows older (the oldest of that generation are only 29 now). &nbsp;The rate of growth of obesity related illness (sorry have forgotten if it is Diabetes type A or B) is growing rapidly in China as a more western diet is adopted and wealth increases. &nbsp;As with the west it is likely that as the economy develops the Chinese will move to more sedentary jobs and use transport more and thus reduce physical movement. &nbsp;We are all genetically fairly similar so how much and what we put in reflects on how we look no matter where we are from.</p>
<p>Nice lesson and I liked the commentary on the ability to be more direct in speech in China than elsewhere. &nbsp;It would be interesting to have a lesson on how to vary this directness with different groups of people. &nbsp;In my experience you might be able to tell a friend that they are fat but it wont go over as well if you tell a customer that they are fat.</p>
<p>TBS</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of our eating habits are learnt in childhood. &nbsp;The adults of China today mostly grew up in leaner times. The waistlines of the Chinese may be different as the current one child generation grows older (the oldest of that generation are only 29 now). &nbsp;The rate of growth of obesity related illness (sorry have forgotten if it is Diabetes type A or B) is growing rapidly in China as a more western diet is adopted and wealth increases. &nbsp;As with the west it is likely that as the economy develops the Chinese will move to more sedentary jobs and use transport more and thus reduce physical movement. &nbsp;We are all genetically fairly similar so how much and what we put in reflects on how we look no matter where we are from.</p>
<p>Nice lesson and I liked the commentary on the ability to be more direct in speech in China than elsewhere. &nbsp;It would be interesting to have a lesson on how to vary this directness with different groups of people. &nbsp;In my experience you might be able to tell a friend that they are fat but it wont go over as well if you tell a customer that they are fat.</p>
<p>TBS</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: minghuiguangbodiantai]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>My experience with the Chinese diet is that most meat is in combination with bone. So, sucking on and chewing around the bone takes some time to actually get whatever meat there is into one's stomach. Such a process can take up a considerable amount of time. This is a good thing, it's too easy to eat large quantities of meat in the west. </p>
<p>Then we have deserts, where the Chinese varieties are comparatively less sweeter, as maybe they don't have the luxury of putting all that sugar into their foods us sugar addicts in a country like America often do.  So things like texture and appearance of the food dominate over a thing like sweetness of taste. </p>
<p>When me and my Chinese brother-in-law went to Macau for a day trip on some special 'teaser'-type offer of a free meal at one of the casinos, when we finally cleared the customs port separating the mainland from Macau we were a bit hungry. My choice of a free meal was some kind of glazed eel Japanese rice dish, he chose some type of 'American' dish of what amounted to a lot of big bones with some small quantities of pork on them. He enjoyed his meal very much, but the dish had so much bone, I wonder how he or anyone could actually be full after eating that dish. But he was full and that's all that matters I guess. And my dish, well, it was mostly rice. </p>
<p>I think the Chinese have the right idea about meat, taken as a highlight will keep them trim and fit.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with the Chinese diet is that most meat is in combination with bone. So, sucking on and chewing around the bone takes some time to actually get whatever meat there is into one's stomach. Such a process can take up a considerable amount of time. This is a good thing, it's too easy to eat large quantities of meat in the west. </p>
<p>Then we have deserts, where the Chinese varieties are comparatively less sweeter, as maybe they don't have the luxury of putting all that sugar into their foods us sugar addicts in a country like America often do.  So things like texture and appearance of the food dominate over a thing like sweetness of taste. </p>
<p>When me and my Chinese brother-in-law went to Macau for a day trip on some special 'teaser'-type offer of a free meal at one of the casinos, when we finally cleared the customs port separating the mainland from Macau we were a bit hungry. My choice of a free meal was some kind of glazed eel Japanese rice dish, he chose some type of 'American' dish of what amounted to a lot of big bones with some small quantities of pork on them. He enjoyed his meal very much, but the dish had so much bone, I wonder how he or anyone could actually be full after eating that dish. But he was full and that's all that matters I guess. And my dish, well, it was mostly rice. </p>
<p>I think the Chinese have the right idea about meat, taken as a highlight will keep them trim and fit.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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