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    <title><![CDATA[Comments on: Fighting over the Bill]]></title>
    <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion]]></link>
    <description><![CDATA[Due to the bill-snatching prowess of the Chinese, you may find yourself at a disadvantage when it comes to tactical check-paying maneuvers, post-dinner.  Listen to this podcast and learn how mobilize for the battle of the tab, in Mandarin.  Of course, that being said, we all know we’re glad they’re paying--but you've got to at least put up the appearance of a good fight.]]></description>
    <pubDate>2007-10-09 18:00:00</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: luobinzhenmei]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19593]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[luobinzhenmei]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hey, our trick WAS to pretend to go to the bathroom and then pay the bill.  Now everyone will know.  Thanks a lot, Chinesepod (sarcasm).   We've tried saying we are our guests' parents and ought to pay, that our children are not filial if they let us lose face.  That only works if one has gray hair, and then it doesn't always.  ]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey, our trick WAS to pretend to go to the bathroom and then pay the bill.  Now everyone will know.  Thanks a lot, Chinesepod (sarcasm).   We've tried saying we are our guests' parents and ought to pay, that our children are not filial if they let us lose face.  That only works if one has gray hair, and then it doesn't always.  ]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19594]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[changye]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[What a GREAT LESSON!
This is definitely the most useful 
lesson I’ve ever learned in Chinesepod.
Today’s dialogue is full of practical expressions.
You must memorize all of them if you come to China.

My boss often treats me 
to lunch or dinner and usually 
doesn’t let me pay the bill for them. 
I will try to use the tactics I learned here 
after checking if my credit cards are still valid.
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[What a GREAT LESSON!
This is definitely the most useful 
lesson I’ve ever learned in Chinesepod.
Today’s dialogue is full of practical expressions.
You must memorize all of them if you come to China.

My boss often treats me 
to lunch or dinner and usually 
doesn’t let me pay the bill for them. 
I will try to use the tactics I learned here 
after checking if my credit cards are still valid.
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        <title><![CDATA[By: jennyzhu]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19597]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[jennyzhu]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[It seems like life here revolves around political considerations of who to eat with and where at. ]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It seems like life here revolves around political considerations of who to eat with and where at. ]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: artkho]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19599]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[artkho]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Bazza's going to be disappointed; Jenny's going to insist on going dutch. ;-)]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Bazza's going to be disappointed; Jenny's going to insist on going dutch. ;-)]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: billybobjoebobwilly]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19600]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[I find it somewhat difficult when with those who will fight for the bill.  It's too complicated.  I'd rather just go A-A (going dutch).  

Much simpler and you can really enjoy the company (not like you 'owe' someone a dinner so they invite you out to receive it? ugghh) ]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I find it somewhat difficult when with those who will fight for the bill.  It's too complicated.  I'd rather just go A-A (going dutch).  

Much simpler and you can really enjoy the company (not like you 'owe' someone a dinner so they invite you out to receive it? ugghh) ]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: oneringtorulethemall]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19601]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[oneringtorulethemall]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[Paying for dinner is a sign of respect, of friendship.

If you treat someone and then expect someone to treat you in return, it's flawed and pointless. Then you get in this ''I give you this but you must give me this in return'' and then it's worse than going dutch, it's trading in a hypocrite way.

I quite simply hate it when people go:

''Ok, you had a glass of juice but I had a sip, so I should pay you half a yuan. Ok who ate the most bread, you should pay most.''

It drives me nuts. I try to pay most of the time but wil gladly accept if someone chooses to treat me.

It makes me happy to pay for dinner and I don't expect people to thank me for it.

Would anyone reassure me and tell me that they also enjoy treating the people they care about without any further hidden agendas?]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Paying for dinner is a sign of respect, of friendship.

If you treat someone and then expect someone to treat you in return, it's flawed and pointless. Then you get in this ''I give you this but you must give me this in return'' and then it's worse than going dutch, it's trading in a hypocrite way.

I quite simply hate it when people go:

''Ok, you had a glass of juice but I had a sip, so I should pay you half a yuan. Ok who ate the most bread, you should pay most.''

It drives me nuts. I try to pay most of the time but wil gladly accept if someone chooses to treat me.

It makes me happy to pay for dinner and I don't expect people to thank me for it.

Would anyone reassure me and tell me that they also enjoy treating the people they care about without any further hidden agendas?]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: marygrace]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19603]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[marygrace]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[(1) I like to pay the bill when I can use my credit card and get frequent flier miles.  So how do you say, "Do you accept American Express"?
(2)  Do you think it's fair to say that if a friend treats you twice, then it's your turn to treat?  
(3) Are some people always supposed to treat?
(4) If I know I can't treat, then I bring a gift for my host. :)]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[(1) I like to pay the bill when I can use my credit card and get frequent flier miles.  So how do you say, "Do you accept American Express"?
(2)  Do you think it's fair to say that if a friend treats you twice, then it's your turn to treat?  
(3) Are some people always supposed to treat?
(4) If I know I can't treat, then I bring a gift for my host. :)]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: danjo]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19604]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[danjo]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[one ring to rule the mall (i am a lotr fan but i decided it's funnier written out that way),

When I go out to dinner with Chinese friends they are generally students, and I assure you there is no hidden agenda. I actually don't like to do it much because they are uncomfortable with me paying all the time but I am uncomfortable with them paying due to their severe lack of money. But they want to pay simply because we are friends. Well, there was one student in danger of failing with a not-so-hidden agenda but he still got the (barely passing) grade he deserved. ]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[one ring to rule the mall (i am a lotr fan but i decided it's funnier written out that way),

When I go out to dinner with Chinese friends they are generally students, and I assure you there is no hidden agenda. I actually don't like to do it much because they are uncomfortable with me paying all the time but I am uncomfortable with them paying due to their severe lack of money. But they want to pay simply because we are friends. Well, there was one student in danger of failing with a not-so-hidden agenda but he still got the (barely passing) grade he deserved. ]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: oneringtorulethemall]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19605]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[oneringtorulethemall]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[I feel the same way, danjo.

I seldom let my students pay for anything. Considering how well off the foreigners are in China compared to the students, it would be unacceptable, morally speaking.

Thank you for sharing, I was getting worried here!;-)

]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I feel the same way, danjo.

I seldom let my students pay for anything. Considering how well off the foreigners are in China compared to the students, it would be unacceptable, morally speaking.

Thank you for sharing, I was getting worried here!;-)

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        <title><![CDATA[By: Kyle]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-19606]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[Kyle]]></author>
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        <guid><![CDATA[#comment-19606]]></guid>
        <description><![CDATA[I've been out to dinner a number of times and have yet to fight over the bill.

However, about a month ago at hot pot I saw two friends actually get into a fist fight over the bill.  Granted they had consumed a lot of alcohol prior, but still, a bit extreme.]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've been out to dinner a number of times and have yet to fight over the bill.

However, about a month ago at hot pot I saw two friends actually get into a fist fight over the bill.  Granted they had consumed a lot of alcohol prior, but still, a bit extreme.]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: katherine0204]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/fighting-over-the-bill/discussion#comment-190083]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[katherine0204]]></author>
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        <guid><![CDATA[#comment-190083]]></guid>
        <description><![CDATA[<p>Haha, It's a good idea</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, It's a good idea</p>]]></content:encoded>
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