呢 ne VS 吗 ma

YantaiGuy
May 27, 2007, 04:56 PM posted in General Discussion

I've been living here in Yantai for almost 6 months now, andmy wife, who is Chinese but speaks pretty good english, hasn't been able to explain the difference between 呢 and 吗 apart from to not say "ni ma" because it's rude.

 

Could someone give me a more academic explanation, or a working definition to help me understand this strange little character? 

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bazza
May 27, 2007, 05:57 PM

According to the ABC dictionary, 呢 is used for "marking questions about subject already mentioned".

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franch
May 27, 2007, 09:00 PM

I would add (if I'm not redundant on Bazza) that it shifts the object of a query, when the subject is the query itself, as in 你妈妈好吗? 你爸爸呢? (a far reaching example, sure). I'd say it is often the equivalent of "how about...". Piece by piece, I hope a comprehensive account may be patched up :)

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amber
May 28, 2007, 04:05 AM

Good answers everyone, Just to add a little more on the 吗 (ma) and 呢 (ne) for your reading pleasure: 吗 (ma) is the marker of a question. Therefore, in most cases, if a sentence already includes a question word such as 谁 (shéi), 什么 (shénme), you cannot add a 吗 (ma) to the end, i.e. wrong: 他是谁吗? (Tā shì shéi ma?) wrong: 你去不去吗? (Nǐ qù bù qù ma?) However, you could use 呢 (ne) in the above sentences, i.e.: 他是谁呢? (Tā shì shéi ne?) 你去不去呢? (Nǐ qù bù qù ne?) The 呢 (ne) here adds a certain feeling to the sentence, kind of like in English "Who is she then?", and "Are you going then?" The above examples dont require the 呢 (ne) grammatically--it just makes them softer in tone. 呢 (ne) is also used as a 语气词 (yǔqìcí) (mood particle) in other contexts, for example: 我正在看书呢。(Wǒ zhèngzài kànshū ne.) 他比姚明还高呢。(Tā bǐ Yáo Míng hái gāo ne.) Hope those examples help. Anyone have any more?

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YantaiGuy
May 28, 2007, 01:39 PM

谢谢大家啦~!