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第一个环绕地球一周的人是谁?第一个发现美洲大陆的人是谁?第一个开辟西欧到印度航线的人是谁?都不知道吗?哈哈,没关系,因为有一位航海家出发的时间比他们都早,而且还七下西洋。他的名字你一定得知道!他就是......
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几年之前有一本书可能比较流行,Gavin Menzies: 1421. The year China discovered America. 作者好像认为郑和或者郑和航海同事的船很可能也到了美洲的什么海岸,比哥伦布还早。我记得书写得很精彩,也谈谈些当时航海的问题。不过,具体的内容我都忘了。(这本书也被翻译成德语, Gavin Menzies: 1421. Als China die Welt entdeckte。我看的是德语写的。)
Being a mere ele, most of the text went over my head. But my wife read Gavin Menzies "1421" book. I thought that it was interesting that 15th century China had significantly advanced knowledge of the world thanks to Zheng He, then pulled back. To me, it makes me think that 15th century China is the 1971 XeroxParc of cultures. In the early 70s, Xerox had, through the Palo Alto Research Center (PARC), XeroxParc also had significant head start on many of the computing technologies we now see daily, the GUI with pull down menus, the mouse, and some of the networking capabilities were also in work. But what did Xerox end up doing? Selling much of that off. Granted, the tech they sold off, they themselves might not have been able to commercialize, but interesting that it was invented/created there.
hi bettina,
我也看过那本书,依我看,因为他没有提供具体的证明,就是趣闻根据的,所以他理论被历史学家视为传说。
有趣的是,假如郑和那时候确实循环地球比葡萄牙和西班牙的冒险家早,那么奇怪的是为什么中国每进行多了解新发现的土地?为什么明朝皇帝没派人去创建贸易,反而据说明朝那时的领袖却把郑和所取得的资料命令官员给烧焦了?为什么全世界各个有历史记载的社会却没有下记录?郑和循环地球却没去欧洲?
美州面积和天然资源多么的丰富,明朝政府却没下意图利用,反而后来许多中国人为了发财搬到旧金山挖黄金。可能郑和接触的社会和人民缺乏文明。
然而,如果作家的理论可能性真有的话,历史界绝对要忙着反思。
Gavin Menzies 写得一塌糊涂.
关于"了事", 好久以前老师教我这句话: "天下事了犹未了,何妨不了了之". 我一直觉得很深奥! 可是不知道它的来源.
郑和这个历史人物已经成为了中国海洋霸权扩张的一个象征。现在“郑和七下西洋”的故事好像在中国(爱国)历史教育中占据比以往更重要的地位。据说有不少中国人希望中国第一艘航母取名为“三宝太监郑和”。但是,解放军郑和航母舰队会像六百年前的郑和船队那样在国外受热烈欢迎吗?我有点为中国担心。
拿谁最早发现美国州来说,我觉得是维京人,不是郑和,不过我肯定不是专家。
我喜欢各种各样的故事:历史题材的,吵架的。。我都喜欢。:-)
可惜每次还是有我不清楚的地方:
0:17 qiangda强大开始qiángdà“ large, formidable, powerful, strong
4:24 暂时这两天xinwa新挖了一条路
5:13 cihou伺候皇上的生活cìhòu: to serve, to act as a valet
5:19 这些huota都要干
6:15 buji部级的水平
6:18 tiedao铁道部,卫生部
8:59 任是一个liangci量词
9:03 danrenzhiwu担任职务的次数
9:07 担任了liangren两任国家主席
9:10 他两次担任了这个主席
15:01 有很多现代人zhouxing走了当时郑和这条航线
15:12 yingni和马来西亚
15:18 郑和yu鱼
15:34 我们会jin尽我们所能
我是历史的老师和我也读了1421和以别的。现在在历史课我学关于Columbus and Magellan.郑和 不在书里可是我要告诉他们关于中国的可是我不知道很多的。我感觉他们应该知道关于发现世界的人都。
先是中南海,再是地球。中文国际化过程手段之一。
各州的各种原住民都感动,幸亏有个文明的国家才来救命!
Hi ouxiansheng
0:17 抢答开始(抢答:抢着回答。一种答题方式,最先抢到的人可以回答问题。经常在一些电视节目中见到。)
4:24 但是这两天我新挖了一条路
5:13 伺候皇上的生活(伺候cìhòu: to serve, to act as a valet)
5:19 这些活儿他都要干
6:15 部级的水平(部级:部长级别)
6:18 铁道部(管理铁路的部门),卫生部
8:59 “任”是一个量词
9:03 担任职务的次数
9:07 担任了两任国家主席
9:10 他两次担任了这个主席
15:01 有很多现代人重新走了当时郑和的这条航线
15:12 印尼和马来西亚
15:18 郑和鱼
15:34 我们会尽我们所能
@Connie:谢谢你!
Last I heard, the experts were saying that 1421 (Menzies) was a hoax or, at best, a work of fiction.
The Multiple Choice questions are too easy. I never thought I would be in a position to complain about this for an Advanced class so in some respects I am happy.
The questions are the same as the example so I find myself remembering the examples and not the new vocabulary.
我一听“三宝殿”就想起一句俗语来了:无事不登三宝殿
我觉得这句话即好听,又好像带有一些幽默感,而且很容易记住。难道跟这节课上说到的三宝殿有关吗?
Hi ricknog
“无事不登三宝殿”跟纪念郑和的“三保殿”无关。
“无事不登三宝殿”中的“三宝殿”指的是:“佛、法、僧”三大活动场所。跟佛教有关。
Hi ricknog
So, "无事不登三宝殿" is a Chinese version of "Danger past, god forgotten". I guess every language has a similar saying. Of course, Japanese also has one.
如果想知道历史学家们为什么不接受Menzies对郑和的看法,可以看Geoff Wade的网站:
www.1421exposed.com
以我看来,在郑和有关的英文书之中,Louise Levathes写的-When China Ruled the Seas-是最好读的,最有说服性的。别的语言写的书我都不知道。
Lies! Damned lies! Here I come to study a lesson on history and find ChinesePod spreading the ridiculous lie that Columbus discovered America! Everyone knows it was Leif Eriksson (萊夫·埃里克松) who discovered it in 1003.
As compensation for my wounded national pride, I demand you do a lesson on vikings.
(Okay, someone's undoubtedly going to claim it was the native Americans who discovered it first. To which I reply: "… uh … shaddup, you.")
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I'm right with you, Simon. For the record, I pointed that out above.
As for the Native American part, I had a Chinese student that insisted Native Americans are descended from an ancient lost Chinese tribe. I was like... no.
I had a student that told me the same. (He wasn't adamant about it.) He did provide the detail that there was a war and 黄帝 won, while 蚩尤 lost. He said there is a theory that the Native Americans descended from 蚩尤's people, who had to flee China. I do remember learning in 7th grade that there was a theory that Native Americans came from China via an ice bridge in the Bering Strait. I've seen similar theories presented in history programs in the US. So long story short I think the story is at least plausible. Of course everything on the subject is a theory.
Definitely in favor of Vikings.
Oh, sorry, Xiaophil; I don't read the comments in Mandarin. Regarding the Native Americans, I think it's fairly well established that they came from Siberia via the Bering Strait, as Orangina points out. Wether or not they spent some time in China before that I'm not sure. It's possible, I guess. But that was so long before there was any China that it doesn't make much sense to call them an "ancient Chinese tribe" anymore than it is to say that my ancestors were Mongols just because the would-be Europeans spent some time in Central Asia after emigrating from Africa.
actually, there are just 6.8 billion Kenyans running around the planet.
Simon, that's what I'm saying. Besides, the idea that 蚩尤 got his ass kicked so hard that he moved all the way from East Asia to America is just unreasonable (sorry student of Orangina). At that time, so-called China was very small relative to the China of today. I doubt they would have gone much farther than Sichuan.
Anyway, if anyone is interested in reading about the origin of Native Americans, I found a couple of quick reads.
http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/003287.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_Native_American_Indians_arrive
Note: the first page shows the DNA of Native Americans are different than East Asian's. The second page indicates that Chinese are cousins of Native Americans. I have to say this is obvious. I have never met a Native American who I would confuse with a Chinese person.