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    <title><![CDATA[Comments on: Google vs. Baidu]]></title>
    <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion]]></link>
    <description><![CDATA[Ali vs. Foreman... Skywalker vs. Vader...  Donahue vs. Oprah... There was always a winner and a loser.  This may not be any rumble in the jungle, but the results are just as hard to bet on... and the odds, well, just odd.  Listen to this podcast, where Google takes on Baidu.  May the best Chinese search engine win.]]></description>
    <pubDate>2008-10-20 18:00:00</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: darylk]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98013]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice lesson. Thanks!</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice lesson. Thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: darylk]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98015]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>This lesson is good because it gives one vocabulary for developing and defending an argument. The back and forth is very well-conceived and the lesson taught me much about the relative strengths of the two search engines.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This lesson is good because it gives one vocabulary for developing and defending an argument. The back and forth is very well-conceived and the lesson taught me much about the relative strengths of the two search engines.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: pretzellogic]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98016]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>wish I understood the argument in mandarin.&nbsp; Nice pace to the dialogue though.&nbsp; The pdf shows a pretty thought-out argument. Somehow, I was hoping to get into a discussion of enterprise value or financial aspects of the companies, even if there wouldn't be a comparison of Chinese vs. American GAAP.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wish I understood the argument in mandarin.&nbsp; Nice pace to the dialogue though.&nbsp; The pdf shows a pretty thought-out argument. Somehow, I was hoping to get into a discussion of enterprise value or financial aspects of the companies, even if there wouldn't be a comparison of Chinese vs. American GAAP.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: emski]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98019]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>本来的搜索引擎的效率挺低，我都记得网络的&ldquo;bad old days&rdquo;需要搜索好多搜索引擎才能找到有用的资讯</p>
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>本来的搜索引擎的效率挺低，我都记得网络的&ldquo;bad old days&rdquo;需要搜索好多搜索引擎才能找到有用的资讯</p>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: songyian]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98021]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Are there any other Chinese alternatives to Baidu? Also, money issues aside, I was wondering if anyone knows how Baidu creates search results? Is it something akin to page rank? It seems strange that Baidu would employ the old model of letting companies pay for higher placement which hurt most non-Google search engines in the U.S.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any other Chinese alternatives to Baidu? Also, money issues aside, I was wondering if anyone knows how Baidu creates search results? Is it something akin to page rank? It seems strange that Baidu would employ the old model of letting companies pay for higher placement which hurt most non-Google search engines in the U.S.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: pearltowerpete]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98028]]></link>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi <strong>Songyian </strong></p>
<p>I'm not sure about the algorithms or magic that Baidu uses to come up with its rankings.</p>
<p>But as regards their use of the pay model, I will venture a guess. Many Chinese companies are interested in quick profits. They don't really see the benefit of giving something away as Google does, even if it has the benefits of</p>
<p>1) building huge brand credibility</p>
<p>2) collecting a massive ocean of data about web-users that can be used for marketing, etc.</p>
<p>In their minds, none of that compares to cash-in-hand.</p>
<p>This is in no way a slur on Chinese companies, and clearly has worked for a lot of them (one of the classic examples being QQ versus the other chat services). It's just a different approach to business.</p>
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <strong>Songyian </strong></p>
<p>I'm not sure about the algorithms or magic that Baidu uses to come up with its rankings.</p>
<p>But as regards their use of the pay model, I will venture a guess. Many Chinese companies are interested in quick profits. They don't really see the benefit of giving something away as Google does, even if it has the benefits of</p>
<p>1) building huge brand credibility</p>
<p>2) collecting a massive ocean of data about web-users that can be used for marketing, etc.</p>
<p>In their minds, none of that compares to cash-in-hand.</p>
<p>This is in no way a slur on Chinese companies, and clearly has worked for a lot of them (one of the classic examples being QQ versus the other chat services). It's just a different approach to business.</p>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: John]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98030]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[John]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.baigoogledu.com/"><em><strong>Baigoogledu!</strong></em></a> [<strong>Warning:</strong> this site has been reported as containing malicious content, so visit at your own risk! It may end up installing crazy malware programs.]</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.baigoogledu.com/"><em><strong>Baigoogledu!</strong></em></a> [<strong>Warning:</strong> this site has been reported as containing malicious content, so visit at your own risk! It may end up installing crazy malware programs.]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: changye]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Semantically speaking, I think that "<strong>下载</strong>" (<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">4</span></strong>) is more appropriate than "<strong>下载</strong>" (<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">3</span></strong>). <strong>现代汉语词典</strong> also says that "<strong>下载</strong>" should be pronounced as "<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">4</span></strong>", but I found "<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">3</span></strong>" in the vocabulary. Anyway, the second character in a frequently used word like "<strong>下载</strong>" tends to become "<strong>轻声</strong>". And, <strong>约定俗成</strong> is also not so bad, I suppose.</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semantically speaking, I think that "<strong>下载</strong>" (<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">4</span></strong>) is more appropriate than "<strong>下载</strong>" (<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">3</span></strong>). <strong>现代汉语词典</strong> also says that "<strong>下载</strong>" should be pronounced as "<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">4</span></strong>", but I found "<strong>xia4 zai<span style="color: #ff0000;">3</span></strong>" in the vocabulary. Anyway, the second character in a frequently used word like "<strong>下载</strong>" tends to become "<strong>轻声</strong>". And, <strong>约定俗成</strong> is also not so bad, I suppose.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: joannah]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98048]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[joannah]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>John, Firefox blocks Baigoogledu as being dangerous. Are you sure it is OK to use?</p>]]></description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, Firefox blocks Baigoogledu as being dangerous. Are you sure it is OK to use?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title><![CDATA[By: magnus1977]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://chinesepod.com/lessons/google-vs-baidu/discussion#comment-98053]]></link>
        <author><![CDATA[magnus1977]]></author>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>This is hilarious because this is the exact topic this week on my website.&nbsp; Come take a look and practice your Chinese!!!</p>
<p>http://www.mandmx.com</p>
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        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is hilarious because this is the exact topic this week on my website.&nbsp; Come take a look and practice your Chinese!!!</p>
<p>http://www.mandmx.com</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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