<![CDATA[Comments on: Lhasa]]> 2010-08-19 18:00:00 <![CDATA[By: JasonSch]]> 有没有人去过拉萨？ 我去过云南云贵高原，但还没去过西藏和青藏高原。我一直很想去。

Has anyone ever been to Lhasa? I've been to Yunnan and the Yunnan-Guizhou plateau, but I've never been into Tibet and the Qinghai-Tibetan plateau. I've always wanted to go. 

]]> 有没有人去过拉萨？ 我去过云南云贵高原，但还没去过西藏和青藏高原。我一直很想去。

Has anyone ever been to Lhasa? I've been to Yunnan and the Yunnan-Guizhou plateau, but I've never been into Tibet and the Qinghai-Tibetan plateau. I've always wanted to go. 

]]> <![CDATA[By: aslan.sunix]]> 我想10-1放假去拉萨，但是不知道到时候有没有钱。

I want 10-1 holiday to Lhasa, but do not know at that time there was no money.

]]> 我想10-1放假去拉萨，但是不知道到时候有没有钱。

I want 10-1 holiday to Lhasa, but do not know at that time there was no money.

]]> <![CDATA[By: luciadavis]]> I want  to Shanghai in holidays

]]> I want  to Shanghai in holidays

]]> <![CDATA[By: aslan.sunix]]> 随时可以来上海~哈哈

]]> 随时可以来上海~哈哈

]]> <![CDATA[By: nitrox]]> Last year I took the train from Xi'an to Lhasa. Although it was a 36 hour ride, it wasn't boring at all as the landscape was changing all the time. The train goes up to 5000m, but sitting (or better lying) in my "soft sleeper" (软卧) did not make me feel any altitude sickness. It was only after having spent one night in Lhasa while visiting the 布达拉宫 that I felt really tired. There's a drug called Gaoyuanan (高原安) they sell everywhere which is supposed to help with altitude sickness, but I couldn't notice a big effect. If anything helped, especially against the strong headaches I got when visiting Lake Namtso at 4700m it was good old Aspirin.

I recommend this trip to anyone, it's an unforgettable experience and well worth the gaoyuanfanying.

]]> Last year I took the train from Xi'an to Lhasa. Although it was a 36 hour ride, it wasn't boring at all as the landscape was changing all the time. The train goes up to 5000m, but sitting (or better lying) in my "soft sleeper" (软卧) did not make me feel any altitude sickness. It was only after having spent one night in Lhasa while visiting the 布达拉宫 that I felt really tired. There's a drug called Gaoyuanan (高原安) they sell everywhere which is supposed to help with altitude sickness, but I couldn't notice a big effect. If anything helped, especially against the strong headaches I got when visiting Lake Namtso at 4700m it was good old Aspirin.

I recommend this trip to anyone, it's an unforgettable experience and well worth the gaoyuanfanying.

]]> <![CDATA[By: JasonSch]]> Sounds awesome. I once took a train from Xi'an t Urumqi and it was very memorable for me as well.

I've heard that some Tibetan people use snuff, or snorting powdered tabacco, to help with altitude sickness while hiking, or going into higher areas. A Tibetan guy I met in Shangri-La gave me some and it was quite the kick. (Similarly, people in the Andes chew on cocoa leaves.)

]]> Sounds awesome. I once took a train from Xi'an t Urumqi and it was very memorable for me as well.

I've heard that some Tibetan people use snuff, or snorting powdered tabacco, to help with altitude sickness while hiking, or going into higher areas. A Tibetan guy I met in Shangri-La gave me some and it was quite the kick. (Similarly, people in the Andes chew on cocoa leaves.)

]]> <![CDATA[By: julias817]]> 欢迎来上海玩，哈哈

]]> 欢迎来上海玩，哈哈

]]> <![CDATA[By: xiaophil]]> I did go. It was beautiful, but I did discover one thing, and that is I am more of a tree guy than open grassy plains guy. All that openness really made me feel lonely even when I was with a group of people.

]]> I did go. It was beautiful, but I did discover one thing, and that is I am more of a tree guy than open grassy plains guy. All that openness really made me feel lonely even when I was with a group of people.

]]> <![CDATA[By: biyanuren]]> I visited Tibet in 1988. When I arrived in Lhasa by plane I almost immediately got sick and had to stay in bed for 32 hours (bad headache mainly) but then I felt ok and visited the region for 7 days (Gyantse, Shigatse...) in a jeep. It was amazingly beautiful. There was lots of static electricity, beercans exploding, difficult breathing and slow stairclimbing. And driving around did make me sick again, but it was worth every single second!

]]> I visited Tibet in 1988. When I arrived in Lhasa by plane I almost immediately got sick and had to stay in bed for 32 hours (bad headache mainly) but then I felt ok and visited the region for 7 days (Gyantse, Shigatse...) in a jeep. It was amazingly beautiful. There was lots of static electricity, beercans exploding, difficult breathing and slow stairclimbing. And driving around did make me sick again, but it was worth every single second!

]]> <![CDATA[By: user35883]]> 35883 -I was in Tibet in September of 2006 and it was probably the most interesting place I have ever been- but trust me you would not want to climb 300 steps of the Potela Palace twice.  Once is hard enough.  I was not sick but we were taking a medicine before we left on a plane to get there.  

]]> 35883 -I was in Tibet in September of 2006 and it was probably the most interesting place I have ever been- but trust me you would not want to climb 300 steps of the Potela Palace twice.  Once is hard enough.  I was not sick but we were taking a medicine before we left on a plane to get there.  

]]> <![CDATA[By: socratesinsichuan]]> Taking the train greatly helps to prevent altitude sickness. When I was there, all the people I met who got altitude sickness flew into Lhasa. That said, one 40 hour train ride (from Chengdu) is enough. I would recommend flying back.

]]> Taking the train greatly helps to prevent altitude sickness. When I was there, all the people I met who got altitude sickness flew into Lhasa. That said, one 40 hour train ride (from Chengdu) is enough. I would recommend flying back.

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaojian]]> 我也很想去拉萨看一看。如果你们对藏羚羊有兴趣，应该看一部电影叫”Mountain Patrol."是非常有意思的，故事是关于藏的偷猎问题。

]]> 我也很想去拉萨看一看。如果你们对藏羚羊有兴趣，应该看一部电影叫”Mountain Patrol."是非常有意思的，故事是关于藏的偷猎问题。

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaojian]]> I have a question about the use of 了二　in the 终于 sentences. 你可不可以把”了“放在动词和名词的中间？

比如：　我终于到了拉萨.

or does it have to be at the end?

谢谢。

]]> I have a question about the use of 了二　in the 终于 sentences. 你可不可以把”了“放在动词和名词的中间？

比如：　我终于到了拉萨.

or does it have to be at the end?

谢谢。

]]> <![CDATA[By: zhuimi]]> the traditional version of 念经 should be 唸經. Click on the link for proof http://tw.dictionary.yahoo.com/dictionary?p=%E5%94%B8%E7%B6%93

]]> the traditional version of 念经 should be 唸經. Click on the link for proof http://tw.dictionary.yahoo.com/dictionary?p=%E5%94%B8%E7%B6%93

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaojian]]> I believe that both characters actually work in traditional. The second niàn with the mouth radical is just a variant of the more basic form.

]]> I believe that both characters actually work in traditional. The second niàn with the mouth radical is just a variant of the more basic form.

]]> <![CDATA[By: alexlexilu]]> the first nian is widely used... even in traditionnal they use a few of the simplified characters... take for example 台湾... they rarely ever use the real 台... 臺... even over there... i read traditionnal all the time and have hardly ever seen any book use the nian with a kou radical... but it makes sense since it means to read out loud...

]]> the first nian is widely used... even in traditionnal they use a few of the simplified characters... take for example 台湾... they rarely ever use the real 台... 臺... even over there... i read traditionnal all the time and have hardly ever seen any book use the nian with a kou radical... but it makes sense since it means to read out loud...

]]> <![CDATA[By: zhuimi]]> @ gaojian & alexlexilu : it's true that people who are from Taiwan and Hong Kong at times write it a lazy short-hand sort of way, and it's also true that sometimes that character is even printed out without the 口， but it's still the most proper for it to be 唸。 This is just like in English , where a lot of times people mix up "your" and "you're" , or just refuse to write/type it the proper way. The same goes when people write something like, "Thats my moms car" , instead of "That's my mom's car" .

By the way ( not to be disagreeable ), but I used to see both 台and 臺 quite frequently when I lived in Taiwan.

]]> @ gaojian & alexlexilu : it's true that people who are from Taiwan and Hong Kong at times write it a lazy short-hand sort of way, and it's also true that sometimes that character is even printed out without the 口， but it's still the most proper for it to be 唸。 This is just like in English , where a lot of times people mix up "your" and "you're" , or just refuse to write/type it the proper way. The same goes when people write something like, "Thats my moms car" , instead of "That's my mom's car" .

By the way ( not to be disagreeable ), but I used to see both 台and 臺 quite frequently when I lived in Taiwan.

]]> <![CDATA[By: xiaophil]]> Wow! 1988? I'm really shocked they let you in back then.

]]> Wow! 1988? I'm really shocked they let you in back then.

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaojian]]> I agree. I just wanted to comment for other users. I lived there as well and frequently ran into both usages.

]]> I agree. I just wanted to comment for other users. I lived there as well and frequently ran into both usages.

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaopeng]]> 对我来说，你的句子还可以。可是，我就是一个外行。

我觉得对话里的句子强调他们“终于到”拉萨了，还有他们的情况 （i.e. 他们还不坐着火车 － they're not riding on the train anymore) 完全改变了。也许，你的例子用的一个 “了一”。

]]> 对我来说，你的句子还可以。可是，我就是一个外行。

我觉得对话里的句子强调他们“终于到”拉萨了，还有他们的情况 （i.e. 他们还不坐着火车 － they're not riding on the train anymore) 完全改变了。也许，你的例子用的一个 “了一”。

]]> <![CDATA[By: gaojian]]> 我贴了后，也有同样的想法。而他们讨论课程的时候说“了二”得放在句子的最后面。

谢谢你的回答。

]]> 我贴了后，也有同样的想法。而他们讨论课程的时候说“了二”得放在句子的最后面。

谢谢你的回答。

]]> <![CDATA[By: JasonSch]]> Interestingly, I just had a conversation with a friend about this exact issue. I personally love grasslands and big open areas, but my friend gets the same feeling you described.

]]> Interestingly, I just had a conversation with a friend about this exact issue. I personally love grasslands and big open areas, but my friend gets the same feeling you described.

]]> <![CDATA[By: connie]]> "了1"用在动词后，主要表示动作的完成。如果动词有宾语，"了1"放在宾语前面。

"了2"用在句末，主要肯定事态出现了变化或即将出现变化。

如果既想表示动作的完成，又想肯定事态出现了变化，"了"可以放在句末。

我终于到了拉萨。（了1）

我终于到拉萨了。（了2）

]]> "了1"用在动词后，主要表示动作的完成。如果动词有宾语，"了1"放在宾语前面。

"了2"用在句末，主要肯定事态出现了变化或即将出现变化。

如果既想表示动作的完成，又想肯定事态出现了变化，"了"可以放在句末。

我终于到了拉萨。（了1）

我终于到拉萨了。（了2）

]]> <![CDATA[By: biyanuren]]> We had to wait in the hotel in Chengdu, and did not know until 2 hours before the flight whether we could go or not. We had to take a Chinese guide along with the Tibetan driver who drove us around Tibet in a jeep. The tension between the two was obvious. We hardly met any foreigners in Tibet at that time. My sister who planned the same trip beginning 1989, was not allowed to enter Tibet, and changed her plans to The silk route and Mongolia. Het father in law was ambassador in Beijing at that time, but even he couldn't help them get in.

]]> We had to wait in the hotel in Chengdu, and did not know until 2 hours before the flight whether we could go or not. We had to take a Chinese guide along with the Tibetan driver who drove us around Tibet in a jeep. The tension between the two was obvious. We hardly met any foreigners in Tibet at that time. My sister who planned the same trip beginning 1989, was not allowed to enter Tibet, and changed her plans to The silk route and Mongolia. Het father in law was ambassador in Beijing at that time, but even he couldn't help them get in.

]]> <![CDATA[By: xiaophil]]> Wow, that's amazing. Your sister's trip to Mongolia and the silk route wasn't a bad alternative.

]]> Wow, that's amazing. Your sister's trip to Mongolia and the silk route wasn't a bad alternative.

]]> <![CDATA[By: Tibet Travel]]> Well,I am the tibet travel advisor! I am a Chinese! Anyone who want to travel to tibet,i can help you! Include the Tibet Permit and so on! Come on and e-mail me! My e-mail add is michael.pan@mail.tibettravel.com.

]]> Well,I am the tibet travel advisor! I am a Chinese! Anyone who want to travel to tibet,i can help you! Include the Tibet Permit and so on! Come on and e-mail me! My e-mail add is michael.pan@mail.tibettravel.com.

]]> <![CDATA[By: Tibet Travel]]> Well,I am the tibet travel advisor! I am a Chinese! Anyone who want to travel to tibet,i can help you! Include the Tibet Permit and so on! Come on and e-mail me! My e-mail add is michael.pan@mail.tibettravel.com.

]]> Well,I am the tibet travel advisor! I am a Chinese! Anyone who want to travel to tibet,i can help you! Include the Tibet Permit and so on! Come on and e-mail me! My e-mail add is michael.pan@mail.tibettravel.com.

]]> <![CDATA[By: Tibet Travel]]> 上海欢迎你呵呵!

]]> 上海欢迎你呵呵!

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