Intermediate - Receiving a Package For a Friend
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:24 AM posted in Transcripts with TalLesson here.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 08:29 AM
13:32
John: If she gives me those 要求 I don't really notice, I just and accept the packages. What's going to happen?
Jenny: 就是。就是给你女儿的 what's going to happen？
John: If its a tin of formula, its pretty solid.
Jenny: OK, that's it from us，然后我们下次再见。
John: See you on ChinesePod.com. 再见.
Right-Wingnut
April 01, 2013 at 01:15 AM
J(1): I should have got the 想起 considering its in the dialog. But even at half speed, your 或者 really sounds like 会 - there is no sign of a second syllable or any sound resembling zh or even z.
J(4): Yep, very indistinct but it sounds right.
toianw
March 31, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Jenny(1): *想起*， 就会associate it with 你在淘宝上，或者在什么。。。
Jenny(4): 每天都*有*快递
John (4): 基本上每天*都有*.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 08:23 AM
Jenny: 没有。只有两个。而且我觉得现在听到快递，我们就会想［qi］，就会associate with 你在淘宝上，会在［？？］。
John: 淘宝.
Jenny: 对。网上买了东西。
John: Now that my wife and I have a baby, we order much of the stuff online.
Jenny: 对。
John: So I'm always 签收ing packages that my wife ordered for the baby.
Jenny: 每天的快递。
John: 基本上每天的.
Jenny: 那你老婆会给你很多要求吗？外包装不好，不要签收。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 08:04 AM
12:40
Jenny: John，其实在中国我觉得可能四五年前，快递还是，怎么说，不是很common，不是很［强健］的一个服务。
John: But nowadays 快递 is everywhere.
Jenny: 而且，［小？］办公室一天有可能有十个快递，对不对。
John: Ten packages every day.
Jenny: Are they all for you?
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 08:02 AM
11:34
John: And of course they won't say where they're going, they just have to go out.
Jenny: 他只有事。不能给你［？？］
John: 有事[???]
Jenny: 不能帮你收快递啊。那我们再听一下今天的对话。
John: 好。
11:45 - Dialog
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:58 AM
11:07
John: So 'in a while I have to go out'.
Jenny: 对。那 In a while 这里就是＇待会儿＇。待会儿。
John: Isn't there a 等一会儿?
Jenny: 对。等一会儿也可以，待会儿也可以。
John: They're basically the same.
Jenny: 对。就是 in a while 的意思。
John: So you're not literally waiting or staying, you're just saying 'in a little while'.
Jenny: 对。
John: OK, got it.
Jenny: 所以中国人都是说 excuse 的 master。The master of excuses。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:50 AM
10:36
John: 要不 is when you preface a suggestion.
Jenny: 就是 why don't you do this? 要不。
John: 让物业. So 物业, two 4th tones, that's the property management.
Jenny: 对的。
John: Basically the guards in the complex.
Jenny: 是的。
John: House.
Jenny: 物业这个词，如果你住在中国，住在apartment［你每年］很常用。要不你让物业帮你收吧，我待会儿也要出去。我待会儿也要出去。
Right-Wingnut
April 01, 2013 at 01:07 AM
J(4): Its so clear now that I know what it is, but I regularly get confused when she mixes Chinese and English.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:41 AM
Jenny: 这是：我买的是蓝色的。
John: So that's also the confirming that it should be this way.
Jenny: 对。Should be blue。我买的是蓝色的。如果颜色不对，也不要签收。
John: OK.
Jenny: 好。
John: And this is where the friend says OK, this is a little too complicated.
Jenny: ［她friend就被有out了。］因为这个人太烦了。
John: You'll notice the Chinese very subtle indirect way of [??being?? - surely its 'saying'] 'I'm not doing this'.
Jenny: 对。然后［？］就是基本上 lie。 Make up an excuse。她说：要不你让物业帮你收吧。要不你让物业帮你收吧。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:31 AM
9:32
Jenny: 对。
John: So that's what lights do.
Jenny: 是的。看看亮不亮啊。
John: So we're referring to the 灯.
Jenny: 对。它这个怎么是用电池的？可能是很小的。
John: A desk light for [that uses??] batteries.
Jenny: 好。那她接下来呢［又让］她的朋友看颜色，对不对啊。反正这是乱七八糟有很多的要求，很多的requirements。
John: You'll notice here we also use that same 是...的.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:18 AM
8:59
John: So 装 can be 'to try to install', 'to start to install' or 'put in', but if you've totally done it ...
Jenny: ... finished ...
John: ... then its a result. Its like 送到.
Jenny: 对。其实这个＇装＇versus＇装上＇，就很像＇送＇versus＇送到＇。
John: So 装 is try to install it, try to put them in, but if you 装上 you've totally succeeded in getting the batteries in.
Jenny: 对的。
John: OK.
Jenny: 好。那我们要装上电池，然后看看这个台灯亮不亮。看亮不亮。
John: So 亮, 4th tone, is a verb which means 'to light up'.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:11 AM
8:33
John: 装上电池. So 电池 - 4th tone, 2nd tone - are batteries.
Jenny: Yes. 那装上电池。
John: The verb there is 装.
Jenny: 对。这个＇装＇就是put it in，［扎］。
John: Install, sometimes.
Jenny: 对的对的。
John: 1st tone, 装. So why is there a 上 there?
Jenny: 这个装上电池呢，就是说：把电池装进去。［都弄好。］
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 07:02 AM
8:01
Jenny: 没错。
John: OK.
Jenny: 好。那接下来呢，她说她买了个台灯，对不对。台灯。
John: 灯 is a light.
Jenny: 那台灯［呢］就是放在桌子上，台子上的。
John: So its a desk lamp.
Jenny: 台灯。台灯。
John: The tones are ...
Jenny: 第二声和第一声。
John: 2nd, 1st. 台灯. OK.
Jenny: 好。接下来她让小皮，让她的朋友打开还要装上电池。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:53 AM
Jenny: 这里呢其实：是怎么怎么样的它也是个pattern。就是一种，怎么说，很肯定的。
John: So if the outer packaging is good ...
Jenny: Is indeed intact.
John: You've confirmed that its good: 是好的.
Jenny: 对，对。
John: This use of 是 with the 的 just makes it seem more definite.
Jenny: 没错。
John: OK.
Jenny: 如果外包装是好的，就打开看看。
John: So if it doesn't look beat up, you open it up, and then you look at the actual product.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:47 AM
7:01
John: So this is used pretty often for accepting a delivery, I'm taking it.
Jenny: 没错。
John: OK.
Jenny: 好。［等啊］是instruction number 1.
John: That wasn't too bad.
Jenny: 那接下来呢她说：如果外包装是好的，就打开看看。所以我们又有这个：如果怎么怎么样，就怎么怎么样的pattern。
John: In this case, if the outer packaging ...
Jenny: ...是好的...
John: ...is good. Why don't we just say 如果包装好?
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:39 AM
6:31
John: Torn or beaten up. OK. So if its totally beaten up, then ...
Jenny: 就不要签收。就不要签收。
John: Now is this 收 the same one we were just talking about?
Jenny: 对。就是收快递，对吧。想麻烦你帮我收一下。那签收呢就是说：你又要签名，然后呢再收下。
John: So sign it and receive it.
Jenny: 对。
John: So those are two 1st tones.
Jenny: 是的。签收。签收。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:33 AM
6:02
Jenny: 好。那我们看看if什么happens啊。如果破了。破了。
John: 破, 4th tone, that means 'to break', 'to tear','to rip'.
Jenny: 对。就是看那个context。那这里外包装，我刚刚说一般就是那个什么plastic bag，对吧，［？］一个box。
John: Or a cardboard box with a bunch of packing tape around it.
Jenny: 对。所以，如果这个这些东西破了，那一般是它，怎么说，beaten up，或者torn。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:22 AM
Jenny: 对。
John: And then its in a box ...
Jenny: 是的。
John: ... which is also taped up.
Jenny: 对对对。
John: So which one does the 外包装 refer to?
Jenny: 最外面的那个。
John: The box with the tape around it.
Jenny: 或者那个plastic bag。
John: OK.
Jenny: 那要先看看外包装好不好，如果破了就不要签收。如果破了就不要签收。
John: So we have a pattern here. 如果 ...
Jenny: ... something ...
John: ... and then 就
Jenny: 对的。
John: So if this happens, then do this.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 06:16 AM
5:02
John: Isn't packaging always on the outside?
Jenny: 对啊。但是我们也说：外包装。因为她这里说的就是：比如大家在中国收快递，可能这个东西外面有一个盒子啊。
John: Like a box.
Jenny: 对。但是这个盒子外面快递公司还会包一个袋子，一个塑料袋。
John: OK [bald] so you wrap it.
Jenny: 对。
John: So the actual thing you ordered is in its original packaging, and then its wrapped.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 05:13 AM
Jenny: 先看看外包装好不好。先看看外包装好不好。
John: So first take a look if the what is good or not?
Jenny: The 外包装。外包装。
John: Now 包装 is a word.
Jenny: 对。包装就是packaging的意思。
John: 包装, that's two 1st tones.
Jenny: 对。那前面还有一个字：外。外包装。
John: So 'outer packaging'.
Jenny: 你觉得Chinese很redundant，对吧。Packaging就是在外面的。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 05:07 AM
4:01
Jenny: 麻烦你帮我收一下。
John: Note that this 收 is 1st tone, its not that 4th tone one. Its 1st tone.
Jenny: 对对对。这个是第一声。收。
John: When you talk about receiving objects, physical objects, you use the 1st tone 收.
Jenny: 收。好的。她们应该是roommates啊。
John: OK.
Jenny: 然后这个小皮就说：好的。然后the fun begins。
John: Here is where all the specific instructions start. What does the friend say?
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 05:00 AM
3:32
John: Hold on a second. 有事回不去 means 'can't go back'.
Jenny: 对。
John: 回不去 is 回去 and then 回不去.
Jenny: 对。对。
John: Can't go back. OK. So I want to bother you to ...
Jenny: 帮我收一下。帮我收一下。
John: 'Help me to accept it'.
Jenny: 对的，to receive it, to sign it.
John: So in this case, receiving it also involves signing, which comes up later.
Jenny: 对的。
John: 帮我收一下。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:54 AM
John: So 送 means 'to send', and means it has been sent and it has arrived.
Jenny: 对。所以＇送到＇就是一个完整的，一个completed动作。
John: What if we just said 到, would that be OK?
Jenny: 也可以。我有一个快递，今天会到。
John: Its just natural to use 送 with 快递.
Jenny: 没错。
John: So we use 送到.
Jenny: 好。但是呢，我今天有事回不去。所以想麻烦你帮我收一下。想麻烦你帮我收一下。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:46 AM
2:41
John: I have a package - this refers to a package.
Jenny: 对。快递。今天会送到。
John: And its going to arrive today.
Jenny: 送到。对。
John: 送 means 'to deliver', 'to send'. What's going on here?
Jenny: 这个＇到＇我们知道就是＇到达＇- arrive - 的意思。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:42 AM
2:02
John: The friend's name is what?
Jenny: 小皮。小皮。
John: 皮. Is that a surname?
Jenny: 对。这是一个比较rare比较少见的姓。
John: 皮, 2nd tone.
Jenny: 对。小皮。小皮说：怎么了？怎么了？
John: You probably know 怎么了 as meaning 'what's the matter', 'what's wrong', but notice that it can also just mean 'what's up', 'what's going on'.
Jenny: 对。Less dramatic.
John: OK.
Jenny: 怎么了？怎么了？然后呢，这个朋友，很烦的朋友，就说：我有一个快递今天会送到。我有一个快递今天会送到。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:34 AM
1:53
Jenny: 这个人好烦啊。
John: I'm not surprised something suddenly came up.
Jenny: 对。所以她的朋友不愿意帮她收快递，对不对。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:29 AM
Jenny: And also, a physical package.
John: So its everything.
Jenny: 对。
John: And the tones for 快递 are ...
Jenny: 快递。是两个第四声，对吧。
John: 4-4.
Jenny: 快递。但是今天你要麻烦别人帮你收一下。
John: So you're going to get other people to go to the trouble of accepting your package.
Jenny: So be nice to them.
John: Let's find out what happens.
Jenny: 好。
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 04:24 AM
Jenny: 大家好，我是Jenny。
John: Hey guys, I'm John. This is an Intermediate lesson.
Jenny: 今天我们要收快递。收快递。
John: So we're going to receive a delivery.
Jenny: 对。收快递。收快递。
John: 收, 1st tone, meaning 'to accept', 'to receive'.
Jenny: Yes.
John: And then 快递, that means 'to courier'.
Jenny: Its both a verb and a noun.
John: So as a noun, its a delivery service.
Right-Wingnut
March 29, 2013 at 08:24 AM13:30-end