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nitrox
April 30, 2008 at 04:03 PM posted in General Discussion

I made a small web-application to learn chinese characters and count, how many I already know. I thought maybe somebody else may use it too.

Just paste some chinese text in the left box and press the button. All individual characters will then be displayed and translated. As most of the characters alone do not make a lot of sense also the corresponding multicharacter words in the text will be translated. Clicking the buttons next to the characters will put them into the exclude list and subsequently supresses (and counts) them. I use this functionality to count how many characters I already know.

The program will remember your exclusion list, so the next time you open the site you can continue where you left off.

http://content.edive.ch

Let me know if you have some suggestions for further functionality or spot bugs.

 

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bazza
May 05, 2008 at 07:44 PM

The popup thing doesn't seem to work for me. I'm using Firefox.

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calkins
May 05, 2008 at 06:57 PM

Wow! You rock. Thanks for the quick improvements. I love the color coding. I will definitely use this now that it has traditional support.

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nitrox
May 05, 2008 at 06:40 PM

Ok guys, I added some improvements.

1) Support for traditional characters

2) Simplified characters are colored green, Traditional characters are colored red. Characters that are the same in traditional and simplified form are colored blue.

3) Moving the mouse over a simplified character will show a pop-up with the traditional character (and vice-versa)

4) A button to exclude all at once has been added.

Have fun

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bryan
May 05, 2008 at 04:38 PM

Nice work, Nitrox. What a cool idea for an app. Along the lines of what Clay mentioned, I think if you had a 'Select All' button and also turned each x button into a checkbox and then allowed the user to 'Save' many changes with a single postback, it would be sweet from a usability/performance standpoint. I see you're using asp.net which I use daily in my job :-)

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John
May 05, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Very nice! Thanks for sharing your work with us...

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clay
May 05, 2008 at 04:49 AM

nitrox,

I really like what you put together. If one was able to unselect all the characters you wanted down the list instead of having to do them one by one (and the page refreshing every time) , I would use this program daily.

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chillosk
May 05, 2008 at 01:23 AM

Great job with the program.

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bazza
May 04, 2008 at 07:00 PM

I've excluded 442 characters now. :)

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calkins
May 01, 2008 at 02:15 AM

Weixiao, I agree completely. To me, characters look completely different (obviously) on the computer screen than handwritten on paper. As if learning hanzi isn't difficult enough.

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calkins
May 01, 2008 at 02:14 AM

Nitrox, thanks so much! Sometimes it's hard being the traditional outcast that no one wants to play with :)

No rush of course.

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wei1xiao4
May 01, 2008 at 01:59 AM

Nitrox, you are so clever. This is really so helpful. It is now in my bookmarks as I plan to use it often. Now can you figure out one that can measure how many characters you can actually write from memory. I find that reading and writing memory are completely two different entities. Does anyone else have that problem? If I can read the character, why is it so hard to remember how to write it?

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nitrox
April 30, 2008 at 10:24 PM

calkins, i will probably make a new release supporting traditional hanzi at some point. I just didn't do that so far because I don't plan to learn traditional. But it shouldn't be to hard to add.

frances, i expect the program to not correctly identify all multi-character words. Mainly because the program does not do any semantic analysis of the text, but also because CEDICT does not contain as many entries as some other dictionaries.

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frances
April 30, 2008 at 09:50 PM

Oops. I see you already said that it's CEDICT.

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frances
April 30, 2008 at 09:49 PM

It's very fun. What dictionary are you using? The context column is interesting, though it did not correctly identify all of the multi-character words in my sample text. It did pretty well.

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bazza
April 30, 2008 at 09:08 PM

I've excluded 212 characters now. :)

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calkins
April 30, 2008 at 08:59 PM

Impressive application! Thanks for sharing nitrox. Would it be too hard to make it work with traditional hanzi?

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nitrox
April 30, 2008 at 08:16 PM

ah, and thanks you guys for the feedback !!!

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nitrox
April 30, 2008 at 08:11 PM

Bazza, you seem to have clicked a lot of buttons already :-) My score is 103 so far, which means a few more years of studying ahead of me. By the way: The program uses the free CEDICT dictionary file for the word matching.

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bazza
April 30, 2008 at 07:49 PM

This is great for lesson analysis as well.

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RJ
April 30, 2008 at 07:34 PM

Thanks for sharing that Nitrox. I will definitely use it.

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phettu
April 30, 2008 at 06:18 PM

May i also say without sounding like i have shares in the company (which i do not)

i use NJStar for translating Hanzi and word processing, and it uses pop ups to explain the hanzi and pinyin.

it does however cost money to use,

I just find programs like this utterly invaluable

:)

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kait
April 30, 2008 at 06:11 PM

谢谢!

very neat program!

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bazza
April 30, 2008 at 06:06 PM

This is excellent for working out how many characters you already know. I tried it on a chaper of the bible and I've so far excluded 107 characters that I know. :)

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cassielin
April 30, 2008 at 05:18 PM

hi nitrox,

It is very cool , thank you for sharing this!^_^

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azerdocmom
April 30, 2008 at 04:56 PM

That's pretty neat. I think others who are seriously learning/studying Chinese should try it; I did it once just for fun and it's cool. Thanks for sharing.

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phettu
April 30, 2008 at 04:26 PM

hi Nitrox

nice litte program for copying and pasting into, :)

very simple and handy

nice job

Phill :)

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bazza
April 30, 2008 at 04:23 PM

Wow, that's very cool.