phonetic map : 反 fǎn
goulnik
October 04, 2008, 05:34 PM posted in General Discussion| fan | ||
| 返 fǎn v. return 返回 fǎnhuí r.v. come/go back |
反 fǎn turn over /upside down /on the contrary 反对 fǎnduì v. oppose; be against |
饭 fàn n. cooked rice or other cereals 早饭 zǎofàn n. breakfast |
| ban | ||
| 版 bǎn printing plate/edition 出版 chūbǎn to publish; come out |
板 bǎn n. board; plank 黑板 hēibǎn n. blackboard |
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| pan | ||
| 叛 pàn b.f. betray; rebel; revolt 反叛 fǎnpàn v. revolt; rebel |
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henning
October 13, 2008, 01:24 PMCSV-list (for the import to Flashcard apps; "@" is delimeter):
出版@chūbǎn@to publish; come out
反@fǎn@turn over /upside down /on the contrary
反叛@fǎnpàn@v. revolt; rebel
反对@fǎnduì@v. oppose; be against
叛@pàn@b.f. betray; rebel; revolt
早饭@zǎofàn@n. breakfast
板@bǎn@n. board; plank
版@bǎn@printing plate/edition
返@fǎn@v. return
返回@fǎnhuí@r.v. come/go back
饭@fàn@n. cooked rice or other cereals
黑板@hēibǎn@n. blackboard
goulnik
September 25, 2008, 04:31 PMhape , there is no hard and fast rule for the meaning of these 3 columns,but the phonetic character itself will always be in the middle.
see my post on phonetic maps explained.
user76423
September 25, 2008, 05:08 PMThanks a lot!
goulnik
September 25, 2008, 06:20 PMI should add that I only use tables as it's by far the easiest way to structure information in html, in fact it's the only possibility since CPod does not allow javascript in comments.
But what I would ideally want to do is have the phonetic root in the center and the characters using it placed at regular interval on an orbit around. There wouldn't be columns and dilemna what to put in what box.
user76423
September 25, 2008, 04:21 PMSorry, but I don't quite understand the role of the 3 columns...
Why is pan/betray in the middle column? Why is the middle column of the ban's empty? Any reason for this?
Anyway, I think these maps help a lot to have a new view on characters and their prononciation.
Thanks!
goulnik
September 26, 2008, 03:46 AMI remember knowledge mgt hype days, not specifically hyperbolic tree maps, however I still know quite a few people who can't live without mindmaps and supporting software. Being very visual, I do like maps actually, I find them amazing, we could probably use them more for learning.
henning
September 26, 2008, 04:43 AMHere is an explanation of Hyperbolic Trees.
And here an example (Jave required).
That would be a nice navigational device for Hanzi, wouldn't it?
henning
September 26, 2008, 05:12 AMHyperbolic tree: 双曲线树 (shuāngqūxiànshù)
双曲线 (shuāngqūxiàn) = Hyperbola
There are 3D-Versions also which are called
三维双曲线树 (sānwéishuāngqūxiànshù)
goulnik
October 04, 2008, 07:29 PMyes, that's cool, much smarter than the 2 concentric ellipses I use in my simple JavaScript - should be more adaptive, will fine tune when I have time (at least it's a single script)
henning
September 25, 2008, 06:48 PMDo you remember those "hyperbolic tree maps" from thw times of the golden Knowledge Management hype?
calkins
September 20, 2008, 01:57 PMHenning and Goulniky, this group is a great resource! Thanks.