More CPod Tinkering

go_manly
July 19, 2010, 12:45 PM posted in General Discussion

Now Cpod have changed the page ordering in each thread. That is, the most recent comments are on page 1.

No issue with that of course, though why they would bother I don't know. But as usual they have not considered follow-on effects:

1. The page selector at the bottom of the page still has 'oldest' pointing towards page 1, and 'newest' pointing towards the higher numbered pages.

2. When you click on a link to a comment from the Conversations page, you are still taken to the highest numbered page, so you don't see the most recent comment.

3. On the Conversations page, there is a comment by pretzellogic which says "Is it me, or are there now 3 month's worth of lesson suggestions now missing?" When I visit the thread, I find that he is correct. The last post there was made on May 9, and pretzellogic's comment that is clearly visible on the Conversations page is nowhere to be seen. How many other threads have been affected like this?

4. This reversal has only been applied within threads. The individual threads themselves are listed within the group they belong to in the old order.

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bababardwan
July 19, 2010, 12:33 PM

2..ah that explains why that happened to me once today. I thought it was just a glitch in that thread at the time.

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go_manly

baba

Don't these never ending glitches ever get you frustrated? I ask because you never seem to show frustration.

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bababardwan

No. I found the comment easily as I twigged straight away by the dates that it had taken me to the wrong page. But I agree it should be fixed. Well done for pointing it out.

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bababardwan

ps certainly I can understand the frustration of disappearing posts that were being reported by yourself and bodawei on the weekend though [if memory serves me rightly]...especially if they're long comments and a lot went into them. Nobody likes that [though not being a techie, in such a case I can never be sure where the problem lies and whether it may be something I'm doing...suffice to say though that if it's a problem others are experiencing on the site then it's likely the site..but when only one or two respond it's hard to know....I'm a believer in one swallow doesn't make a summer....it'd be nice to get more people posting to guage better though ,hey?]

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xiao_liang
July 19, 2010, 03:45 PM

Why are you posting this in general discussion, instead of the tech problems group?

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trevorb
July 19, 2010, 07:19 PM

I didn't know there was one.  And now I do I don't know how to find it.

Is there no search for a group function or am I just missing it somewhere?

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xiao_liang

Here you go :-)

http://chinesepod.com/community/groups/view/technical-problems-on-site-1076

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sebire

Don't worry Trevorb, you have just demonstrated the completely inexplicable approach to groups at present :)

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go_manly
July 20, 2010, 07:10 AM

And now, the Add-Ons tab has been renamed 'Partners'.

The problem - in the process the 'Convert to tone marks', 'Skritter Lite' and 'Tone Practice' add-ons no longer have enable/disable buttons.

And the original problem has still not been addressed.

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peterning11

Hi go_manly. The new "Partners" page will be use for our 3rd party developers to develop new tools for our users. The "Enable/Disable" button has been removed because these features will be enable by default for all users.

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go_manly

Thanks for that Peter. But what about the problem I raised in the original post at the top of this page. None of my 4 issues seem to have been addressed. It is a problem for all threads which are longer than a page. Of particular concern for me is the Lesson Topic Suggestions thread.

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peterning11

Hi go_manly. Thank you for notifying us of this bug in regards to the comments and posts. We are making some updates on our comments section that will fix all of the bugs you've mentioned. Our new comments/post will list the oldest comment/post will be the first comment/post on the first page pointing 1. The last comment/post will be the newest comment/post will be the last comment/post on the last page pointing higher number.

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go_manly

When we go to a lesson from a search, we are still taken to the highest numbered page. I added a comment to a lesson, then wondered where it had gone to. After adding the comment a few times, I finally realised it had been added to the first page. I wonder how many people who are not familiar with the site have given up after not finding their comment.

Further, might I suggest that your new layout is highly illogical. People scroll DOWN a page, then when they reach the bottom, they go to the TOP of the next page. So they expect the last comment on page 1 and the first comment on page 2 to be consecutive. That is NOT the case with your new layout.

The new comment ordering is highly confusing. If you are not going to revert to the previous page ordering, you should rearrange the comments so that the newest comment (and the comment box) are at the top of the page, so that the comments are again sequential.

But even that leads to a problem with sub-threads.

Seriously, why did you play with the ordering? There was no problem with the way it was.

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peterning11

Hi go_manly, can you link me to the specific lesson that you made the comment? I will look into it to see what the problem is.

Also our current thread layout is that the first comment on page 2 is consecutive of the last comment on page 1. Please point me to the specific thread that you find it inconsistent with this layout format.

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go_manly

Well, it seems you have reverted to putting the oldest lessons on page one, so both points are now moot.