Intermediate - Powerpoint presentation problems - Poddies collaboration
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:08 AM posted in Transcripts with Tal
chris
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John: Intermediate listeners, this is Chinesepod, my name is John.
Dilu: 大家好，我是Dilu
John: And today we have a business focused lesson, it's about a very Chinese issue I think.
Dilu: A very Chinese issue?
John: Alright, well, I'm sure lots of people all over the world have this issue but in China I know it happens a lot
Dilu: 啊，今天我们要讲的是PPT
John: OK, so PPT of course refers to...
Dilu: 那个powerpoint presentation
John: Right and in China they're often just called PPTs
Dilu: Anything wrong with that, John?
00:31
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:13 AM00:30-01:00
chris
00:31
John: Well, it's not what we say in English but I guess it makes sense. We call them PDFs and MP3s, so why not just call them PPTs?
Dilu: 嗯，对
John: But in China do you also say 'presentation'?
Dilu: 嗯，有的时候会
John: In English, right?
Dilu: 对
John: Alright, that's all we need to know, let's listen in on some pointers for how to improve a PPT
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对话
01:00
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:15 AM02:00-02:30
chris
02:00
对话
02:11
John: OK, so Dilu in this dialogue who is talking to whom here?
Dilu: 啊，是一个销售总监和他的两个员工
John: OK, so his position again is?
Dilu: 总监，总监
John: OK, 3rd tone 1st tone. That refers to a director, right?
Dilu: 是的，然后他是一位销售总监
02:31
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:16 AM02:30-03:00
chris
02:31
John: So a sales director, specifically
Dilu: 嗯，是的
John: And the tones on 'sales'?
Dilu: 销售，第一声和第四声
John: X-I-A-O, 1st tone, S-H-O-U, 4th tone
Dilu: 嗯
John: So, 销售总监
Dilu: 嗯，那还有两个人呢，他们做了一个PPT
John: Right, and when the director says he looked at the PPTs, what does he say?
Dilu: 你们做的PPT我都看过了
John: Now, this is pretty simple grammar but I have a question
Dilu: 嗯
John: This 看过了, why do you need to add a 了，can you just say 看过?
03:03
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:18 AM03:00-03:30
chris
03:03
Dilu: 啊，看过表示这个事情你经历过了
John: So you've had this experience. So if you add the 了 what does that add? Do we have to add the 了?
Dilu: 啊，你加上这个了会比较自然，啊了表示这个事情已经发生
John: OK, so it's more natural with the 了, it gives you this kind of feeling of already
Dilu: 嗯，对
John: I've already looked at your presentations
Dilu: 对，你，你们做的PPT我都看过了
John: And the 都 referring to both of the PPTs, right?
03:30
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:19 AM03:30-04:00
chris
03:30
Dilu: 嗯，是的
John: OK, so then what does he say about them?
Dilu: 总的来说还是不错的
John: OK, there's a few things to say about this. Now first of all the opening phrase is...
Dilu: 总的来说，总的来说
John: So, overall
Dilu: 嗯，是的
John: Like speaking generally. Can we hear that one more time?
Dilu: 总的来说，总的来说
John: So, 3rd, neutral, 2nd, 1st, right?
Dilu: 对
John: 总的来说
Dilu: 嗯，总的来说还是不错的
04:00
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:22 AM04:00-04:30
chris
04:00
John: So, this 还是, is that like still, they're still pretty decent?
Dilu: 啊这句话的意思呢其实是这个总监他要说这个PPT有什么不好的地方
John: Right
Dilu: 但是他就先说好的地方
John: OK, so in this type of situation when you're giving someone constructive feedback, you generally start with the positive and then you give them info on the negative, right?
Dilu: 嗯，otherwise 这个总监可以说，啊总的来说很好，他就不用说总的来说还是不错的
04:31
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:23 AM04:30-05:00
chris
04:31
John: OK, so if you add in this 还是 you're going to hear the positives, but then you're definitely going to hear the negatives later
Dilu: 嗯，对
John: Alright, could you give us some simple examples of how this works
Dilu: 嗯，John你中文说的还是挺好的但是要注意声调
John: Ah, OK, so your Chinese is pretty good, but you need to pay more attention to your tones. So in English we kind of do this with the tone, when they lead off with something positive there's a certain feeling of, uh oh, something negative is coming
Dilu: 对的，对的
05:00
chris
May 26, 2012, 05:12 AM00:00-00:30