Low Demand for Chinese
darkstar94
July 31, 2012, 11:06 PM posted in Transcripts with TalI came across this article yesterday in the local paper. I'm curious to know if other places are experiencing the same thing:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/7380134/Low-demand-to-learn-Mandarin-in-schools
bababardwan
I also enjoyed Ken's punchline conclusion:
At the risk of sounding self-serving, they’d be better off for now using ChinesePod.
hehe, na dangran ;)
darkstar94
Ken Carrol covered this about New Zealand? That's awesome. What he says seems to be quite correct, I think here it's just that if it is being taught, it's not being taught in a way that's appealing.
From my experience, the first time I was taught Chinese was from a kid's book which taught me everything I didn't want to know when I was first starting to learn Chinese like "tree", "horse", "moon" etc. My girlfriend's little sister seems to be learning Chinese this way. Though it might be a good way to learn writing, it does not really allow the kids to experiment and have fun with the language.
Even in university I find it not as stimulating as it could be. When I studied Spanish at high school there were a lot more activities and games and the whole learning process was a lot more enjoyable as a whole.
pretzellogic
August 01, 2012, 04:02 AMdemand for mandarin was apparently the rage as documented in the NY Times or BusinessWeek as recently as 2008 or last year. But nowadays, not sure how the demand is shaking out in the US.
bababardwan
August 01, 2012, 07:07 AMI'd had the impression previously that learning to speak Maori was encouraged, but seeing those figures suprised me a little..I didn't realise the figures would be so high. Is it mainly Maoris learning it, or is it more widespread? How widely is it spoken in the community in NZ?
darkstar94
I was quite surprised by that too to be honest. I think the reason is that Waikato is a province that has a lot of emphasis on Maori culture compared to other parts of New Zealand. I am not too sure what the graph includes either, because Maori is compulsory in primary school (I remember when I was growing up learning the very basics) so maybe the makes up for a large number of that graph.
I think most people learning Maori are people of Maori descent or have some sort of Maori background. Around Waikato University I am sometimes caught off guard when I hear people talking in Maori. For me, it is still quite rare to hear people talking it but I think amongst communities I'm sure it's common. There is also a Maori channel and there is Maori news on TV before the primetime news, so Maori language has definetely developed more status compared to how it used to be like when Maori people were punished for speaking it.
darkstar94
August 01, 2012, 10:39 AMBy the way, sorry for posting this in the wrong place, I only just realized.
root
August 01, 2012, 01:05 AMhah, pretty funny, apparently Ken Carrol covered this issue in 2008 http://ken-carroll.com/2008/02/26/culture-and-tcfl/ and now it's back !
I did enjoy this part