Mobile testing
coljac
June 15, 2007 at 08:31 AM posted in General DiscussionI'm testing the mobile version of chinesepod, and I'm posting this so I can reply to it from my phone. Others are of course welcome to do the same. :)
henning
July 02, 2007 at 12:30 PM
goulnyk,
thanks again for the link. Will try all that (reg hack, addon software...) out as soon as the PDA comes back from repair / repacement.
Lantian
June 17, 2007 at 03:48 AM
Curious, anyone at Cpod and/or within China trying this? I'm in China and I'm willing to buy a new phone, phone plan, etc., even just to beta test, if this will be supported within China. If the expectation is that I log in from my phone to the internet and pull from a U.S. server, then .... well forget'about it. ;p
junhao
June 17, 2007 at 03:38 AM
Thanks for that but I've tried it already:
"Simplified and Traditional (for the smartphone based on Symbian Series 60 OS 6.0, 7.0, 8.0 Operating System, such as Nokia 6680, 6630, 6260, 7610, N-Gage QD, 6600, etc.)"
but the system doesn't install the SIS file saying that it's not recognised/the wrong version/something like that.
After some further Googling (in particular - http://darlamack.blogs.com/darlamack/2007/05/changing_fonts_.html ) and hacking around, I did the following:
1 Download and install a file manager such as Y-Browser - http://www.pushl.com/y_browser/
2 Using Y-Browser and looking in z:\resource\Fonts (i.e. the currently installed firmware for my EMEA model), I see the folllowing four fonts:
- nohindisnr60.ttf - Nokia Hindi S60 Regular
- nohindissb60.ttf - Nokia Hindi S60 SemiBold
- nohinditsb60.ttf - Nokia Hindi TitleSmBd S60
- S60ZDIGI.ttf - Series 60 ZDigi
Any file I create on my memory card in the same directory \resources\Fonts with one of the above names replaces that font.
As I don't have the font files for the APAC region (with Chinese) version of the Nokia N95, I copied across one of the Unicode TrueType fonts with Chinese characters installed as part of Windows XP - c:\windows\fonts\simsun.ttf - and called it nohindisnr60.ttf. Restarted the phone and Chinese characters and Pinyin (including the third tone) displayed correctly!
(To delete your newly created font file, you have to start the phone without the memory card installed, plug in the memory card and then connect the phone to your PC so that you can delete the file.)
I can't imagine ChinesePod expect users with phones which don't have Chinese character/Pinyin fonts to replace the fonts by going through the above process. Given that, perhaps the system needs to be changed so that the Chinese characters/Pinyin are generated at the Chinesepod end and then sent across as a picture (which all phones will be able to display) rather than the Unicode (?) characters (which only phones with the Chinese/Pinyin fonts will be able to display) ? I don't know whether this would be possible, e.g. too demanding for the webserver etc.
bazza
June 17, 2007 at 12:27 AM
You could try this: http://www.qcode.com/eng/services/download/download.php3
This must be what lets me have Chinese characters.
junhao
June 16, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Bazza, thanks for the reply. Opera was one of the first things I registered when I got the phone (I've used it on other platforms) but I get the same problem, i.e. Chinese characters aren't displayed.
bazza
June 16, 2007 at 09:28 PM
Looks like there is a free version.
Opera Mini - http://www.operamini.com/
bazza
June 16, 2007 at 09:23 PM
junhao, I don't think Chinese characters worked on my standard browser, so I installed Opera and they seem to work fine on that.
It should work on your phone:
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/s60/
There is a small charge but it is a really good little browser.
junhao
June 16, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Having had a Google around, it seems that the Chinese fonts don't come with the UK version (only with the APAC version) so unless I can install them (I haven't found any clear instructions so far), I'm out of luck.
Not directly related to this but the included PDF browser (Adobe Reader LE 1.5) doesn't display any pinyin or Chinese characters. However, Pdf+ from http://www.mbrainsoftware.com/ installs an extension which means that it can display Chinese characters (but not pinyin).
junhao
June 16, 2007 at 07:44 PM
Bazza - I only got lessons to appear tin the "Lessons" section when I scheduled them (using a normal browser - not possible with the mobile version) ?
My phone also can't display the third pinyin tone but ... more seriously, it can't display any Chinese characters (both normal and magnified)! They all come out as empty boxes. I have a Nokia N95 (UK version) - any ideas how I can install Chinese language support ?
bazza
June 16, 2007 at 10:48 AM
Is the "Lessons" section supposed to be blank at the moment? I can only get to the lesson dialogues and stuff through the "Conversations" section.
I can't get the dialogue pinyin popup to work very well in Opera, when you highlight a word it popup at the top of the screen but you have to scroll up to see and you lose the selection in doing so.
junhao
June 16, 2007 at 06:38 AM
It works now on my Nokia N95 - I updated the firmware to the latest last night so not sure if that was the problem ?
goulnik
June 16, 2007 at 06:36 AMhenning, I had some issues when I first used the device, check the Pleco forum for related discussions on font location / tweaking, can't remember what did it, if it was installing MonsterChinese or what (even the eval version may do it)
henning
June 16, 2007 at 06:27 AM
Works here as well (HTC/Tmobile MDA Pro)
only problem: Mobile IE shows no Hanzi. Anybody knows a Windows Mobile browser capabable of displaying Chinese (Font is installed)?
goulnik
June 16, 2007 at 06:18 AM
glad to hear about the mobile version of the forum, I may start to use it now.
mobile CPod works fine on my WM5 smartphone, both Opera 8 and IE. There's obviously a font issue with pinyin 3rd tone, the same goes for all but the simplest hanzi (in terms of number of strokes). But with such limited screen real estate / resolution it's clear magnification is the only option, not a CPod issue per se.
TaiPan
June 16, 2007 at 12:58 AM
this is great! just sent from my palm 700w in los angeles. groundbreaking!
bazza
June 16, 2007 at 12:37 AM
BTW you may not be aware but there is also a mobile version of the forum at http://forum.chinesepod.com/mob/
bazza
June 16, 2007 at 12:22 AM
There's a slight pinyin display problem on my phone, it only seems to be the 3rd tone letters that won't display.
junhao
June 15, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Doesn't work here with my new toy which I received this morning (Nokia N95; clean version without any operator branding).
I can login fine and read this thread but when I try to post, I get a 404 error - "An unpexected error occurred with your request. Please try agai later." I've tried it twice and got the same problem both times.
goulnik
June 15, 2007 at 09:35 AM
no problem there, just got it too, replying from my smartphone. Need to explore further before I can comment but conversations seem to be straightforward
kencarroll
June 15, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Whoa! ChinesePod is going mobile and C, oljac is the first one to use/test it. History.
Coljac, you da manda bomb, and da mobile tester, etc.
light487
July 24, 2008 at 09:58 AMI can't seem to get any audio to play on my Hiptop Slide. Not sure if I can install a different browser or not because I only got it today...