OBAMA

obitoddkenobi
November 05, 2008, 04:13 AM posted in General Discussion

A new day has dawned in America.

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cassielin
November 05, 2008, 04:28 AM

奥巴马!Obama

他成为第一位非洲裔美国总统!

希望中美关系能够更加友好!

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frances
November 05, 2008, 03:54 PM

> "Those who would tear this world down" is still open to interpretation.

Sure, that's true, but Obama is trying to clearly distinguish his plans for a more peaceable America from any idea of a pacifist America. This is an important distinction for him to make for a number of reasons. Given his opposition to the invasion of Iraq, I am still hopeful that he's a man who can tell the difference between reasonable and unreasonable uses of military force.

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goulnik
November 05, 2008, 05:36 AM

just watched to his 1st speech as president-elect on the BBC, I'm as impressed as I was when I first listened to him after his nomination back in June in Chicago.  Yes, an historic moment this is, not just for America

奥巴马是美国第一个挑战的的成绩(*),中国有什么相当的挑战?

* 也是美国挑战的第一个成绩

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kevina
November 05, 2008, 07:11 AM

I am concerned that Obama will follow the radical left of the democratic party and move to impose sanctions over Tibet. I think not because frankly we need China more than it needs us, but I do expect a sharply higher lever of tension going forward. I don't believe this result was good for US/China relations - but I've been wrong before and I hope I am now.

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pearltowerpete
November 05, 2008, 12:31 PM

Hi kevina,

I voted for Obama and wish him the best in the loopy months ahead. But I have no illusions that he is some kind of liberal savior. In fact, he will publicly distance himself from the left. I can't imagine he'll even touch the Tibet issue. 

The trouble in Tibet will get worse before it gets better. But I believe it will be overwhelmingly an internal issue between the Chinese and the Tibetans who favor some kind of reconciliation and those, especially the younger generation, who want independence.

But, if the new Dalai Lama is reincarnated in America, as the current one has suggested is likely, hold onto your hat.

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jamestheron
November 05, 2008, 04:50 AM

Indeed it has.

Looks like CPod called it early ;)

http://chinesepod.com/lessons/election-candidates/discussion

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changye
November 05, 2008, 12:38 PM

Please allow me to copy and paste the comment I posted in other thread. I always support recycling!
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There is the small town named “Obama (小浜)” in Japan. Of course, a lot of people there have been enthusiastically rooted for Barakc Obama, even though they are not eligible to vote in the US. Anyway, Japanese people are, at least, somewhat familiar with Mr. Obama by default.

http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnJOE4A408A.html

On the other hand, the name “McCain” doesn’t sound good to Japanese people’ s ears. The Japanese transcription of “McCain” is “ma-ke-i-n” (マケイン), and the sound is almost the same as “ma-ke-i-nu” (負け犬), which unfortunately means “underdog” in Japanese.

In this sense, Mr. McCain was destined to lose (输定) the Presidential election long ago from the standpoint of Japan. No offense please, Mr. McCain. Japan has a proud tradition of respecting a good loser. To my knowledge, there were a few bad losers in Democrats in the past.

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kimiik
November 05, 2008, 02:33 PM

There's an interesting concept in Barack Obama victory speech delivered at Grant Park in Chicago :

"And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of our world – our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand. To those who would tear this world down – we will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security – we support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright – tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from our the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope. "

"Those who would tear this world down" is still open to interpretation.

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kevina
November 05, 2008, 02:39 PM

Article in the LA Times that dismisses his view on China as rhetoric - way to stick your head in the sand guys!

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-china31-2008oct31,0,830264.story

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kimiik
November 05, 2008, 03:05 PM

Disturbing the Status quo would be a Casus belli ?

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sebire
November 05, 2008, 12:33 PM

Let's hope he's not an American version of Tony Blair: "Things can only get better".