Looking for a word
ancalagon
November 22, 2008, 10:09 PM posted in General DiscussionI'll try and keep a long story short. I'm looking for a word that I'm fairly certain translates to 'nevertheless', and for which I believe the pinyin is 'ren ran'. The full sentence is as follows:
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Anyone have any idea what the characters I'm referring to are?
ancalagon
November 22, 2008, 11:42 PMBump, can really use some brief help with this. Again, I'm looking for a Chinese word -- 'ren ran', I believe, in Pinyin -- that means 'nevertheless.'
Trying to decipher something a teacher recorded for me. Thanks again.
boran
November 22, 2008, 11:57 PMHow about 仍然 (réng rán)?
ancalagon
November 23, 2008, 12:03 AMThat's it, my error was in thinking an -ng final was an -n. Thank you so much boran.
boran
November 23, 2008, 12:17 AMYou're welcome. I always have problems comprehending words with the dropped "g".
lynee272727
November 30, 2008, 12:52 AMI am a chinese gril and happy to be majoring in International cross cultural communication,and i hope to teach Chinese after college graduation,could you please give me some suggestion?thanks
beijingstrong
April 06, 2009, 02:40 PMHi Matt,
reng ran=仍然
虽然在美国学习中文很有意思，但我[ren ran]觉得如果不在一个自然的环境中每天说，听，读，写中文，就不能达到一个流利的境界。
Although I get interested in studing Chinese in America, I still argue that I would not reach the level of influency if there does not exist a daily circumstance to force me to speak, hear, read, and write Chinese.
still means 仍然.
BeijingStrong
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miantiao
April 06, 2009, 06:17 PM北京强，
其实意思是相反的！可能他的中文写的不清楚。意思是：although studying chinese in the US is interesting, i still feel/think/reckon that a natural enviroment is more helpful in achieving fluency than reading, listening, and writing everyday in the US.
当然会有别的英文说法，不过意思要一模一样。
miantiao
April 06, 2009, 06:41 PMancalagon,
nevertheless, 倒是。
我倒是觉得/认为/ 想....nevertheless, i feel/think/reckon....
他倒是没听我的， he nevertheless didn't listen/never listened to what i said/a word i said.
固然。。。。， 倒是/不过/可是/但是 /还是。。。。
given/granted ......, nevertheless.
( acknowledgment.....,contrary to ......)
他固然喜欢唱歌而表现得很精彩，不过他的嗓音我倒是认为不怎么好。granted he likes to sing and puts on a good performance, but i nevertheless think his voice isn't all that great.
ancalagon
November 22, 2008, 10:09 PMNo idea what happened with the copy/paste from word, maybe this is clearer:
虽然在美国学习中文很有意思，但我[ren ran]觉得如果不在一个自然的环境中每天说，听，读，写中文，就不能达到一个流利的境界。