Everybody Loves Raymond
haikeyi
November 25, 2008, 04:33 PM posted in General DiscussionProfessor Doctor Raymond Chen Hao is one of my teachers. I have three of them, Ray, Carol and Sissi. You've already met Sissi [qv]. More on Carol later... Prof. Dr. Chen claims to be educated in the United States (PhD cum laude from Columbia University) and Germany ("Heidelberg," he says after a suspicious pause...). Ray even claims to head some working group at the UN (New York). Maybe you'll see him in Tampa.
Joe: Hi Ray. If 'shan liang de' is an adj, what is 'shan liang'? "Wo ai ni shi yinwei ni shan liang he piao liang."
Ray: 'shanliang' is also an adj,if u use 'shi', u must use it with 'de', that is, 'shi shanliang de'
Joe: 'shanliang de' is an adjective, "Ni shi shanliang de nvhaizi." 'shanliang' is a verb! "ni hen shanliang."
Ray: who told u that? your teacher must be mad! It's an adj! 'very kind', 'kind' here is an adj!
Joe: They call it an adjectival verb. 'de' converts it into an adjective.
Joe: 'hen' is an adverb, can only go with a verb. You cannot say, *"Ni shi hen shan liang nvhaizi."
Ray: that's what i told u,'shi....de' have to be used together.'ni hen shanliang' it's still an adj!
Ray just doesn't get it. Maybe his English is not good enough. Maybe he hasn't read all the books he shoulld have read, the ones they publish only in America, the lingustics books, the books on functional grammar, A Structural/Functional Grammar of Mandarin Chinese. And to make matters worse - to add insult to injury, Ray is as stubborn as a mule!
This is the problem I'm having: I am in China and I cannot find a Chinese teacher! Nobody has taught me anything. Why not? Because nobody knows anything! Nobody cares! Everybody thinks they know it all. I would be better off studying Chinese at the Cleveland Public Library, www.cpl.org, the People's University.
Joe
PS
My trial at ChinesePod subscription is up. I have stopped paying my teachers. Why? It is a matter of principle. I am teaching them Chinese and the irony is I don't even speak Chinese! ChinesePod, ChinesePopUp, TEFL Academy, Harson Education, Modern Language Institute, Mandarin House... Do you seriously believe that you can teach anybody Chinese by force-feeding them each word, one at a time? Can you teach us Chinese by teaching us how to behave, how to stand in line, how to argue with our neighbors over the garbage?
I want to work on that semantic network I was talking about, the Dialog Ontology. You need one foe each of your nearly 1000 lessons (It would kill Plato to call them dialogs). And, don't forget, you are going to need a glossary for your entire corpus.
Hey, let's call the ontology, Learn Chinese the Easy Way: in just 40 days! Sitting in the lotus position or reclining comfortably on your cot, discipuli enrolled at Chinese Pod will be able to hold this Ontology up against their forehead or keep it under their pillow at night and learn Chinese in their sleep! Subliminal messaging? Sweet dreams? Let's have the girls {jenny, connie, jiaojie, emma, vera...} record just the ontology in a feed. I'd pay for that!
haikeyi
November 25, 2008, 05:14 PMGIGO=Garbage In Garbage Out :-)
sebire
November 25, 2008, 05:32 PMVery odd.
RJ
November 25, 2008, 05:48 PMNo comment. None needed.
haikeyi
November 25, 2008, 07:51 PMGentleman,
I am not a troll. I am a trogg, a Troglodyte.
I do not live under a bridge. I live in a cave down in the park next to the hotel...
PS
Wild thing...you make my heart sing...
You make everything
Groovy
I said wild thing...
Wild thing, I think I love you
But I wanna know for sure
Come on, hold me tight
I love you
Wild thing...you make my heart sing...
You make everything
Groovy
I said wild thing...
Wild thing, I think you move me
But I wanna know for sure
So come on, hold me tight
You move me
PS
Excuse me for complaining but I hate this editor.
pearltowerpete
November 26, 2008, 01:23 AM林子大了, 什么鸟都有。
bababardwan
November 26, 2008, 01:32 AMRJ,
lol;exactly.Speaks for itself.
Adam,
I had a few beeps going off from the start,and like other detectors,when you get closer,it just went ballistic.
haikeyi
November 25, 2008, 04:50 PMWYSInWYG = What You See Is not What You Get" :-)
david0000
November 26, 2008, 06:34 PMyes. Indeed
pearltowerpete
November 27, 2008, 01:31 AMWow, all. This conversation just gets trippier all the time.
xiaohu
November 27, 2008, 01:43 AMWhat do you think of officially voting the term "trogging" into C-pod terminology?
pearltowerpete
November 27, 2008, 01:44 AMHi xiaohu
Necessity is the mother of invention! 但我们还有一个问题:Trogging 中文怎么讲?
xiaohu
November 27, 2008, 03:51 AMHow about 穴居-ing? Hey, if someone can be 请-ing, they can most certainly also be 穴居-ing
BXJRKCDXHQZ = 把穴居人开除到穴回去住
BTTBTTC = Banish the Troglodytes back to their caves
哈哈!
pearltowerpete
November 27, 2008, 04:51 AMHi xiaohu
From the start, this thread has been a trip down the rabbit hole. So I guess 穴居ing works for me!
mayor_bombolini
November 27, 2008, 05:06 AMHaikeyi are you leaving? 井底之蛙,这可惜!
I'm going to miss the off the wall rants.
fordbronco
November 26, 2008, 01:55 AMVery inspiring.
urbandweller
November 25, 2008, 04:41 PMwho? why? what the?!!
beep beep beep! my troll radar is picking up something again!!
wow, chinesepod seems to attract a lot of very strange people! celebrate the diversity! ha ha!