phonetic map : 叕 zhuo

goulnik
 January 04, 2009, 09:23 AM posted in General Discussion

@ 叕

zhuo
叕 zhuó (old form of 缀 zhuì)
chuo
啜 chuò to drink; eat; sob **
(饣甫)啜 būchuò to eat and drink
啜泣 chuòqì to sob
 惙 chuò troubled
惙惙 chuòchuò sad; depressed; melancholy
 辍 chuò to stop before completion **
辍学 chuòxué to discontinue one's studies
zhui
* 缀 zhuì to sew; stitch; compose; decorate; adorn; affix
补缀 bǔzhuì to mend (clothes); patch
点缀 diǎnzhui to embellish; adorn
缀辑 zhuìjí to compile and edit
后缀 hòuzhuì suffix
duo
掇 duō to pick up with both hands
拾掇 shíduo to tidy up; repair; fix
 裰 duō to repair worn-out clothing
补裰 bǔduō to sew and mend
直裰 zhíduō monk's/priest's robe
di
蝃 dì **
蝃蝀 dìdōng rainbow


** 啜 also written 餟
** 辍 also written 缀
** 蝃 also written 螮

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changye
 November 27, 2008, 11:08 AM

叕  means "sew", and shape-wise it makes sense very well. The problem is that this character consists of three "ヌ" and one "又" (lower right corner). WHY aren't they all the same?

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henning
 November 27, 2008, 11:28 AM

These characters are really cool.

(when I got more time and can do the full-fledged program again, I will definately continue preparing the CSVs)

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goulnik
 November 27, 2008, 03:42 PM

thanks changye, I hadn't paid attention, shame on me :-(  

the same actually goes for 双(shuāng) which is actually the simplified form of 雙 but is supposed to have existed a long time before the official reform.

in all cases, 又 (yòu) represents a hand, and also indicates repetition, which makes perfect sense.

as to the ヌ element, it doesn't seem to exist on its own other than in katakana,  so may be it's just for graphic effect, much like 々 the (unnamed) symbol to indicate repetition,

so, 叕 would mean two pairs of hand (repeat, repeat, repeat hand)...

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goulnik
 November 27, 2008, 04:26 PM

looking into this, I just found out that there's a similar character with three hands, 叒 (ruò) which is component of 桑 (sāng) 嗓 (sǎng) and 叠 (dié)...

the difference being that 又 does not appear as such here, only ヌ I think, but that may just be a typeface effect as it seems to vary with different fonts.

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goulnik
 November 27, 2008, 08:18 PM

I just noticed that ㄡ is actually the 注音符号 (zhùyīn fúhào) i.e. bopomofo for the 'ou' sound, identical to the katakana ヌ for a different sound ('nu' I guess). still no explanation for the different glyphs, but as far as etymology, the oracle character was supposedly representing 3 fingers of a hand.

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changye
 November 28, 2008, 06:11 AM

Hi goulniky,

Thanks a lot for your information on "ヌ" and "又". The upper part of 桑 consists of three "ヌ", but interestingly enough, "叒" has two "ヌ" and one "又", just like 双, 叕 and 缀. My take is that "ヌ" changes into "又" only when it is located in lower right, in other words, when it is written last.

There is an important concept called "捺 （na4）" or "磔" (zhe2) in Chinese calligraphy, which indicates, e.g. the last stroke in the character "永". This part is considered crucial for beautiful writing. You need to emphasize the part a little to make a character look beautiful.