知了来了 (cicada season)

bodawei
August 11, 2012, 09:11 AM posted in General Discussion

It is cicada season in China. chán (formal: cicada) 知了 zhīliǎo (colloq. cicada). Anyone trying to run a summer class with the windows open has to shout or give up.

I looked it up in Pleco and was surprised to find fifteen listings for cicada, including some intriguing cheng yu. Here’s a couple:  蟪蛄不知春秋 huìgūbùzhīchūnqiū (lit. short-lived cicada does not see all of the seasons; fig. to see only a small piece of the big picture) 金蝉脱壳 jiīnchántuōqiào (lit. the cicada sheds its skin; fig. a crafty escape plan).

Anybody got any cicada stories or more chengyu? 

 

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chris
August 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

I had to look up the English first mate!  Not come across cicada before, but I know exactly what you mean.  The noise of these creatures in our apartment compound in SH is phenomenal.  Sometimes it feels like they're part of an orchestra all in sync, e.g. just as one section goes quiet, another one starts up.  Are they the same as "crickets"?

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bodawei

' it feels like they're part of an orchestra all in sync, e.g. just as one section goes quiet, another one starts up'

Exactly - it is remarkable group activity - they rise to a crescendo together and then ... the opposite (diminuendo?) ... then it starts again. It is quite beautiful walking the leafy streets where we live, enjoying their music.

I'm not an entomologist (not even close) but I think that crickets are quite different. The cicada has big transparent wings ... crickets make me think of emaciated cockroaches with their long antennae. Cicadas spend a period of their life cycle underground. They are common in Australia - I didn't realise you don't have them in England.

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rosamagliola

I belong to a meditation group, earlier in the season, we heard birds' singing, now we listen to the buzzing of Cicadas. 蟬,they are also called locusts colloquially, although they are not related. They like heat, that is when they do their most spirited singing. Usually the male leads the sound by vibrating the membrane on their abdomen, the rest will follow. It is amazing how powerfully loud this tiny creatures can be. Coincidently, today is the primary election day, at least where I live, I am not a political person usually (I am a mandarin Chinese instructor, 大學中文老師). Perhaps collectively, we vote with love in our heart for our country, we'll be as vocal as those tiny cicadas. That is the lesson to be learned, in my humble thinking.

髙宗玉 Gao Zhong-yu (known to my students as Mrs Rosa Kao magliola)

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bababardwan

Love the idea of meditating while listening to the music of the Cicadas. 很酷Thanks for this interesting post.

Watched the Australian version of The Amazing Race last night and one of the challenges was eating Cicadas...可能苦 [可以这么说?。。。 味道是苦?]

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SF_Rachel

Baba, 你再次换图像。这条狗在冥想吗?它沉思蝉之歌?

我不怕吃烧烤蝉。应该蝉味同嚼鸡一样。

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bababardwan

“这条狗在冥想吗?它沉思蝉之歌?”

呵呵,就是

“我不怕吃烧烤蝉”

这个是不是因为你是一只鸡吗?

“应该蝉味同嚼鸡一样”

天啊!我听过很多的奇怪的食品味道跟鸡肉味道一样的,但是你说的表明你是同类相食的动物啊!

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SF_Rachel

哦,你对咯!我忘了我是一只鸡。 哪怕鸡很喜欢吃虫子,不喜欢吃鸡味的食品。

我不是随便鸡!我是很特别的鸡。我是鸡带着银子的王冠。 不过可能 posh birds 不喜欢虫子跟烧烤酱。

应该是“鸡味道”比较“味同嚼鸡一样”好。我范本是“味同嚼蜡”的词语, 但是不够好。

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bababardwan

哈哈

“我是鸡带着银子的王冠”

嗯,我看到过。那,我们得称呼你什么? Rachel黄鸡?

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SF_Rachel

这个黄有什么意义?Perverted chicken? 我有的时候自嘲,不过这个绰号 一点丢脸。

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bababardwan

哈哈,我知道了你可能翻译这样的, 但是,你有一个黄喙,对不对? 而且你是一只鸡,是不是? 所以你是Rachel黄鸡 [黄beak鸡省略的]

。。另外个意义是因为你带王冠所以你可能是黄帝的鸡[所以黄帝的鸡省略的] ,我觉得

。。。怎么样? 适不适合你,你觉得?

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bababardwan

到底我的目的是“黄帝”和“黄鸡”的双关

而且,我承认我可以用皇帝[没有黄的双重含义]不过用黄的话,意义多了,呵呵 [当然我只在开玩笑朋友 ;)]

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SF_Rachel

嗯,这个。。。我不太喜欢。:-)

皇帝是残酷的, 对吧? 我的愿望是,我替我的臣民是一个慷慨的,有爱心的女皇鸡。

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bodawei

Thanks for the lovely post on 蟬 - I love that 蟬 - the 繁体字 somehow looks like an insect with those two little 口 that look like eyes. (Sorry I'm not too good with character analysis.)

髙宗玉 (Mrs Rosa Kao magliola) - do you mind me asking where you live/work as a Chinese teacher? Hong Kong? Taiwan?

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bababardwan

"我的愿望是,我替我的臣民是一个慷慨的,有爱心的女皇鸡。"

噢,在这样的情况下我的建议是你应该戒同类相食,好吧?

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SF_Rachel

好的。

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bababardwan

那,我觉得你一定*会成为了到一只很善良的女皇鸡,*[一定像鸡蛋],加蛋

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rosamagliola

現在是六月中旬,在NYC尤其是Flushing沒有聽到鳥唱或蟲鳴。我想這

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SF_Rachel
August 14, 2012, 06:58 PM

I grew up on the East Coast of the U.S., where there's a weird kind of cicada locally called the "17 year locust" (or more properly, the 17 year cicada). These little critters spend 16 years underground and then come up and sing their 17th year. But the weird thing is that the hatching cycle is synchronized for pretty much all of them. So the environment has 16 years without cicadas, followed by a cicada year.

And when a cicada year comes, they're everywhere! We had a cicada year in my late teens and I remember that the air was thick with them, everyone's car grills were full of cicadas (even though we cleaned them out every day). The racket was deafening, if just for a couple of weeks, but to mind mind also weirdly calming.

It was really interesting. I remember having a lot of fun playing with them. They had no fear of people, as I recall, so you could pick them up and make them sing if they weren't already singing. Since cicada years happen so rarely, there tends to be a sort of festival atmosphere when they hatch (I don't think they're terribly damaging to plants). A lot of cicada recipes in the newspaper too, I remember. :-)

Unsurprisingly given that periodic cicadas are native to North America, in a way it gives the lie to the chengyu 蟪蛄不知春秋 above.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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bababardwan

Great story Rachel! 多谢跟我们分享。自然可是那么了不起,对吧?

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bodawei

Yes, thanks Rachel, I echo baba's sentiments - nice story. I kind of assumed that cicadas were everywhere, like ants, or bees. I was surprised when chris said he had to look them up - I guess they need warm weather to bring them out of the earth, I don't know.

I thought that the chengyu might be apt regardless of how long they stayed underground - being underground for any length of time would keep you out of the loop. For 16 years!! Extraordinary as baba says.