Tough words on human rights

calkins
February 28, 2009, 11:39 AM posted in General Discussion

Seems like today on Cpod is the day for Chinese news. 

Following is an interesting article about the human rights exchange between China and the US.  China makes some very valid points. I love the "personality disorder" statement.

And man, not that it's a surprise, but politicians are such ass kissers!

Tough words on human rights

  • James Reynolds
  • 27 Feb 09, 11:25 GMT

This time of year sees a semi-ritualised exchange between China and the United States.

On Wednesday, the US State Department published its 2008 Human Rights report. The report includes a 47,000-word section on human rights problems in China:

"The government's human rights record remained poor and worsened in some areas. During the year the government increased its severe cultural and religious repression of ethnic minorities in Tibetan areas and the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR), increased detention and harassment of dissidents and petitioners, and maintained tight controls on freedom of speech and the Internet."

Late on Thursday, China delivered its reply. The Information Office of the State Council released its 10th annual report on human rights problems in the United States.

China's 9000-word report paints a bleak picture of life in America:

* "Widespread violent crimes in the United States pose serious threats to its people's lives, property and personal security."

* "Americans live shorter lives than citizens of almost every other developed country, ranking 42nd in terms of life expectancy."

* "Drugs, suicide and other social problems prevail in the US."

* "Many young Americans have personality disorders."

* "Racial discrimination in the judicial system is appalling."

China then reaches its conclusion:

"The US practice of throwing stones at others while living in a glass house is a testimony to the double standards and hypocrisy of the United States in dealing with human rights issues, and has undermined its international image. We hereby advise the US government to begin anew, face its own human rights problems with courage, and stop the wrong practice of applying double standards on human rights issues."

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi

Tough words from both sides. But this yearly exchange of human rights reports appears to have very little practical impact on US-China relations.

Just a few days ago, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held talks in Beijing with all of China's leaders - the issue of human rights was barely mentioned (in public at least). The US and China have also just started two days of military talks in Beijing. And the two countries continue to rely on each other's business to get out of the world's recession.

Profile picture
changye
February 28, 2009, 12:09 PM

At first I thought the lines indicated by boldface were stories about the life in China.....

Profile picture
miantiao
February 28, 2009, 02:13 PM

i just couldn't live without drugs or other social disorders

Profile picture
miantiao
February 28, 2009, 02:14 PM

great to see the overlords in beijing are relying on such a society to return to double digit growth.

Profile picture
miantiao
February 28, 2009, 02:18 PM

creativity and moral issues have nothing in common. jealousy bears it's ugly head in many forms, most commonly criticism of others' culture and habits. i've never once heard a foreign journalist or china specialist blame cultural behaviour for the lack of human rights in this country. in boxing we call that below the belt, once more and you can f@#$ off

Profile picture
tvan
February 28, 2009, 02:50 PM

Of course, some of the observations are considered by many Americans to be true re: past treatment of Native Americans, racial discrimination in the courts, etc.

On life expectancy, the CIA factbook lists the U.S. as 46th in life expectancy worldwide, so it seems that we Imperialist Running Dogs have a dimmer view of ourselves than China.  Using the same list, China's ranking depends upon how you parse it.  Macau ranks #1, but China ranks #104.  #42 is Bosnia Herzegovina.

Profile picture
RJ
February 28, 2009, 05:29 PM

Im with Miantiao. How boring a perfect world would be. :-)

Profile picture
tvan
February 28, 2009, 06:33 PM

"The United States erected a 18-feet-high wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, which severely impaired life of local Apache people. Indigenous women fell victim to violence of American soldiers. In border cities and townships like Juarez, more than 4,000 Indigenous women were killed or reported missing."

OK EnglishPod, looks like you got yourself a customer.

Unless I missed it, a revealing omission is capital punishment.