friendly Advice and impatient Complaint, irrelevant to DA The Final Show
zhenlijiang
September 23, 2009, 01:02 PM posted in General Discussionthemainman:
Told your bud too just how easy and fun Cpod is to abuse then did you?
Unless I'm mistaken you're currently under the most ridiculous, glitchiest posting ban ever--you lucky dawg!
IMO Japanese isn't a language teachable to lower level learners over podcasts. Somebody living in Japan and trying to learn from Jsomethingpod is going to get about as much learning done as you did in your year+ in China, told him that too did you if he's your bud?
Commit, invest and engage if you think you're going to learn the language of the country you're residing in. Have a little respect.
Here's looking forward to seeing your ban finally take effect (this delay, no fault of yours of course).
cheers cheers cheers
go_manly
September 24, 2009, 07:55 AMSo, does this mean the ban is now in place?
themainman
September 23, 2009, 02:10 PMwell just because I made a typo doesn't mean I am not allowed to withdraw it. please forgive me. pretty please with sugar on top. why are you going out of your way to get me? you are being very vicious and calculating, it is unnecessary...are you lonely and unfulfilled in your life? I can be your online friend. but only if you let me. anyways, Im going to go to bed now and listen to a few cpod dialogues before falling asleep. I really hope we can be friends zhenlijiang btw, how did you get your chinese name? correct me if I am wrong, but I get the impression you are japanese, so just curious if there is any significance behind your chinese name. my name themainman, was just something I thought of when I had to choose a user name. see, we are getting to know eachother...yea! Im excited about our new friendship! themainman infukuokajapan
go_manly
September 23, 2009, 02:36 PMthemainman,
I am clearly missing something here - I'm not sure what this is all about. Just one question - are you drunk now?
zhenlijiang
September 23, 2009, 02:56 PMgo_manly, I lost patience and made my complaints public because this person earned himself a ban last week yet has not been banned from posting at all, and CPod have not responded when I asked about a time frame as to when it would happen.
This is his "withdrawn" post to me.
themainman says
get a life you old hag
I never abused cpod. Ive been a paying subscriber for a couple of years. I study the lessons. just because I posted some dumb comments when drinking which I officially now apologize for, I have never been much of a poster...and just because I posted some stupid comments doesnt mean I am an abuser. and just because I made a dumb comment in japanese about a dog doesnt mean you need to go email a mod...find something better to do. I shouldnt have posted it. Im sorry. I wont post it ever again. end of story.
why do you want to go out of your way to have me banned from commenting? is your daily life so small and pathetic you need to go out of your way to have me banned from posting?
I need to be able to ask loads of questions regarding lessons...if I cant do that then cpod is of little value to me. so if you want to have me banned then I really dont care as long as cpod will assign someone to promptly answer all of my questions via email. otherwise if they are going to ban me and not give me a way to ask questions I will just have my subscription refunded. plus you gotta admit I ask good questions (sometimes :)
actually the fact that there isnt more detailed language type questions in the lessons makes me wonder if people are missing a lot...I am pretty anal about getting every little nuance...but oh well, that is just me...
anyways, why do you care if I post or not if I never post to you again?
Sorry, it isn't interesting and normally I would let go a post someone has withdrawn, certainly not put it up again, but it was up there long enough for me to read in entirety.
Anyway, this is what he said is a post with remarks he dare not repeat, then some minutes later became a post he "withdrew because of a typo".
Tal
September 23, 2009, 03:09 PMHe was a cowboy, mister, and he loved the land. He loved it so much he made a woman out of dirt and married her. But when he kissed her, she disintegrated. Later, at the funeral, when the preacher said, 'Dust to dust,' some people laughed, and the cowboy shot them. At his hanging, he told the others, 'I'll be waiting for you in heaven---with a gun.'
zhenlijiang
September 23, 2009, 01:53 PMDon't worry about not daring to repeat. Only just saved your pre-edit post, to find this new revised one. Seconds before you withdrew it apparently.
You can save your breath okay? :) :) :)
Tal
September 23, 2009, 04:10 PMHmm. Why go to Japan? Why go to China? People should stay in their own countries. My gran used to say that. Actually she was a bit 十三点，but she had some good ideas.
tvan
September 23, 2009, 07:37 PM@themainman, that was a pretty offensive post in English! I shudder to think what the Japanese version said.
chanelle77
September 23, 2009, 11:43 PMI just got back to China and trying to get a flight to Japan already :-) ! (still crossing my fingers for Jpod haha)
zhenlijiang
September 24, 2009, 05:52 AMTvan, unless I've missed something this morning you have not seen "The offensive post", and you never will because it will never be repeated here, not in any language.
(It wasn't the "dog" reference in there--who cares about that. It was the way this user signed off on that post that was most offensive and he knows it.)
Chanelle, Japanese teaching over podcasts maybe can be done for more advanced learners--? I think it's quite discouraging and unapproachable for even earnest students in the beginning when unlike with Chinese it's hard to say anything without unintentionally sounding impolite all the time. And I will be the first to say, unlike Chinese people we are unfortunately quite intolerant of the "butchering" of our language. Whenever I hear about someone who "was studying Japanese, but became fed up / lost interest etc., switched to Chinese and absolutely loves it" it does make me a little sad, but I do understand. Chinese is so much more fun, at least in the beginning, and I think this is esp true if you're an English speaker.
Tal, the good thing about all this--I've found myself a comeback username. You won't like it though, I wouldn't think. hahaha
Matt, thank you for responding and sorry for doing this. I would have waited quietly if you had given me a time, say, even two weeks later. Please feel free to delete this entire post later on--or leave it up--either way is fine, with me anyway.
The tech people who have many more important things to do,
thank you.
Everybody else--I apologize for making a scene and bringing negativity to the boards.
zhenlijiang
September 23, 2009, 03:52 PMthemainman:
More friendly advice.
It doesn't matter to me whether or not you say you don't get why the sight of your username is such an eyesore I am insistent on the ban being on and good (well, I'm only insisting because the ban isn't on as promised). Mainly because you strike me as a compulsive liar:
1) Aug 3 2009 you're new to CPod. 2) you keep saying--the offense that got you banned is some remark about some dog. 3) just above--you withdrew your original reply to my post because of a typo. 4) again, just above--"correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression you are japanese"
Start your life over by cutting back on all these little lies that you keep telling; start this before you get to HK, and get help if you really can't seem to stop.
What I actually am is a live-and-let-live person.
You went out of your way to first use my mother tongue to harass me in the most offensive language, then the next day repeatedly called me a rat, insulted and threatened me. That was a full week ago.
And now it occurs to you to say sorry--for a dog comment? What held you back so long? Ironically, it would be honesty. You're not sorry for anything, only sore at being banned, therefore you don't attempt any apology.
Actually this is what I had said to Matt late last Monday night after he had removed your original offending post:
Matt, thank you for responding quickly on this.
Let me tell you right now Matt, if this user realizes he's made a terrible mistake, had a lapse of judgment, whatever--and offers a sincere apology to me, anyone who can read Japanese and all other CPod community members for being a total ass, I can accept and put it behind me (but something about his attitude in his reply to you, plus all the rage he's only been too willing to impose on us tells me that's not going to happen).
If not--even if that is the last incident of that sort, I will never be comfortable as long as this user is around, knowing of the hostility toward Japanese underneath the chirpy good-natured veneer.
I don't plan on ever getting used to anti-Japanese slurs and vulgar language here or anywhere else. I am offended by his doing that in Japanese so that most users can't get the look inside his sick mind that I was made to see.
I do trust you guys to make a decent judgment.
Thanks for listening to this unpleasant complaint.
But no. The next day you went on to give us, among other insulting posts saying I had nothing better to do than 打小报告, the very charming
我最看不惯（it's not 看不管）你这种打小报告的日本鬼子。你可要小心啊。
You had the chance. You blew it. Get it now?
You seem to get it that I don't take kindly to idiotism of that sort in general. Actually, the decent people at CPod do not either.
But you need to get it straight that I did not "tell on you" like you keep saying I did. I saw offensive language in Japanese and whether or not I was the target does not matter. Of course I would tell CPod staff and ask for it to be removed immediately. Only someone who reads Japanese would know what sort of scum you put up there.
You crossed the line at least twice.
The ban is only three months. You can take it. These are things you shouldn't have to be told.
And do save it with the "japan is a great country. the people are so genuine." remarks. Make the effort to get out of this place you hate as early as you possibly can; don't waste time, every day, try even harder than you already are. For your own well-being.
themainman
September 23, 2009, 01:33 PMzhenlijiang
I am so sorry. I was wrong. please forgive my earlier comments which I dare not repeat. japan is a great country. the food is great. the people are so genuine. Im so sorry I ever made a bad comment. I was drunk at the time. I lost my job and got completely screwed by a japanese company and had an interview with a japanese guy that day that didnt go well and I was very angry. Also, I have lived in japan for a while and nowhere else have I ever encountered such close minded thinking and blatant racist and rude behavior directed towards me just because I am a gaijin. so I was having a bad couple of days and drinking and I just letting out all my frustrations of the past couple of years. I know this is not a good excuse, but it is how I was feeling at the time...if that makes any sense at all... can you please find it in your heart to forgive me?
I really like using chinesepod and I really like to ask questions about certain aspects of the language that to me are not obvious...I think sometimes I ask good questions that other people might not have thought of. I promise to never say anything bad about you and I find it strange that someone who contributes as much as you do to Cpod that you are going out of your way to have me banned...I wish you would reconsider and we could even be online friends and help each other study...
sincerely,
themainman
withthemasterplan
butImnotfromjapan
orchinaeither