America Vs. China

mysticpic
October 12, 2007, 04:31 AM posted in General Discussion
What country has more power?
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mysticpic
October 12, 2007, 04:32 AM

China's power is growing and quickly overpassing America and its economy. Soon America will be considered 2nd best and China 1st. This may already be the case. Learn Mandarin now if you want to be part of the best...

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rjlee818
October 16, 2007, 03:40 AM

Like it or night, there's is definitely unfairness in the world. And as individuals we need to help those that need it if we can. The world is not equal! But having said that, I believe an open society, with a fair playing field, is still the best way to bring forward benefits for the most people. Again, life is not fair...but let's not "throw out the baby with the bath water", an economically open society, with laws to help with a fair playing field, is the best way forward for the most people. Sure theirs poor people. But China's middle class is the future of China. The larger the middle class, the more stable is the way forward for China. The larger the middle class, the more able China will be for China's middle class to help rural China.

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man2toe
October 12, 2007, 06:16 AM

Lets hope and/or pray that the two get along and are responsible to themselves and others. Other than that, I am going to shy way from this loaded question. PEACE

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kimiik
October 12, 2007, 07:24 AM

Hades ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades

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Kyle
October 12, 2007, 08:25 AM

China won't catch up to America economically for AT LEAST another 40 years.

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Lantian
October 12, 2007, 09:05 AM

FAIR PLAY - I think it's the wrong question. Will the world be a more equal place in the next 40 years? Will the inequalities in life be less and the opportunities to thrive greater. Whoever gets us closer to that, is who I will support. I am as disheartened by seeing a crack house in the U.S. in contrast to the 29 million dollar Malibu estate, as I am by the Xinjiang guy riding around on his bike picking up trash versus the Shanghai guy in this year's BMW. The U.S. has the most military power, but it cannot stop a 14 year old kid from placing a bomb on the street. It's the wrong question.

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Kyle
October 12, 2007, 09:22 AM

Oi oi, Lantian.

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wildyaks
October 12, 2007, 09:43 AM

Yes, Lantian, totally the wrong question. Wish we could do without a super power... How about instead of answering such loaded questions, or discussing the inequalities in this world, we take seriously our social responsibility?

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Kyle
October 12, 2007, 10:37 AM

"A man's (or woman's) greatness is measured by his (or her) contribution to society." Someone famous said that. Forgot where I read it though...

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pulosm
October 12, 2007, 02:17 PM

They have been saying that China is the next superpower for 20 years or more. By question is: WHEN? Is Kyle right? I suspect so.

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henning
October 12, 2007, 04:39 AM

Liechtenstein?

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rjlee818
October 12, 2007, 03:02 PM

"I am as disheartened by seeing a crack house in the U.S. in contrast to the 29 million dollar Malibu estate, as I am by the Xinjiang guy riding around on his bike picking up trash versus the Shanghai guy in this year's BMW." I am heartened to know that in an economically open society, the guy in the crack house has a chance to one day live in the Malibu Estate, and the guy riding around on his bike picking up trash has a chance to become the guy with the BMW. This is what America has offered to more people than any other country in the world. That's why so many immigrants want to go to America. Forced redistribution of wealth does not create equality, but extinguish opportunity and encourage stagnation. I'm for a fair playing field, not equality through redistribution of wealth. After all, "To be rich is glorious." As long as you bring as many people along as possible. For every billionaire, there are hundreds of thousands of people who benefit by having great jobs and a good future. Just look at Microsoft's Bill Gates. Great billionaires help many people!

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rjlee818
October 12, 2007, 03:04 PM

I meant, "Without" America as a superpower in WWII, we could be trying to learn Japanese right now.

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Kyle
October 13, 2007, 01:15 AM

No, we'd be speaking German. =)

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wildyaks
October 13, 2007, 03:14 AM

We will never know... Just many, many more people would have died, that's for sure...

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bwoolley
October 13, 2007, 04:31 AM

40 years??? LOL. Its going to be a hell of alot faster than that... Might as well get on board or get out of the way http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/markets/screener.asp?exchange=13&screen=3&x=36&y=25

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wildyaks
October 13, 2007, 04:45 AM

"I am heartened to know that in an economically open society, the guy in the crack house has a chance to one day live in the Malibu Estate, and the guy riding around on his bike picking up trash has a chance to become the guy with the BMW. This is what America has offered to more people than any other country in the world. That's why so many immigrants want to go to America." rjlee818, I am thoroughly disheartened by the fact that only a very few lucky ones get the Malibu estate or the BMW (if that's what they aspire for) - even if they work very, very hard. And even more so by the fact that the rich stand by and think the poor are poor because of their own doing... Since in an open economy everybody has equal chances... If only it were like this...

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henning
October 13, 2007, 06:46 AM

To second wildyaks here: I would certainly agree that the "everybody can become rich" is part of the US brand. But I doubt that the comparison "than any other country in the world" still holds true. Today you have that in most developed countries with a market based economy. You even see Chinese who climb or fall fast and radically. That makes for a good part of the dynamic in China's current boom.

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rich
October 13, 2007, 06:56 AM

Confucius thinking is everyone can become a sage.... is that at all similar? It is nice to at least think everyone has an equal opportunity to move up in life, if it not always the case with people stepping on each other to get up to the top, where no one is happy anyway. We do, as Wildyak said, have our social responsibility, and part of that is helping others get where we are today, so I feel.

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rjlee818
October 12, 2007, 02:47 PM

With America as a superpower in WWII, we could be trying to learn Japanese right now.