Chance and Community Chest

It would be great to continue--they are fun!

Oh, darn, I read "communist chest" at first. Is that Freudian already? Erm, anyway, is there any chance of continuing these monopoly postings?

Looks like these still work if I copy and paste them from above and add more space.

bazza,"monopoly"用中文怎么翻译比较好啊？as sophie's question :)

Yeah,

but we also learned you go into prison for the rest of your life if you do not hand the money back. Even if it is a rather small amount of money.

去蹲监狱吧

Hi bazza,

I think that you should have explained the meaning of “地产大亨” (real estate tycoon, di4 chan3 da4 heng1) first. It seems that “Bank Error In Your Favor” is not so rare in China. We learned about that three months ago.

http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E6%81%B6%E6%84%8F%E5%8F%96%E6%AC%BE/discussion

Card #6 Translation:

Bank Error In Your Favour

Collect ￥2,000

银行 [yín háng] - bank

出错 [chū cuò] - to cause error/make mistake

对 [duì] - to

你 [nĭ] - you

有利 [yǒu lì] - favourable

领取 [lǐng qǔ] - receive

sophie, 游戏是"地产大亨".

Card #6:

Card #5 Translation:

Go back 3 spaces

退 [tuì] - retreat

后 [hòu] - back

格 [gé] - grid/square

呵呵，英文太差了，我都不明白这里到底在说什么."monopoly"在这里是什么意思啊？还有这些card 都是一种游戏里面的吗？

Card #5: Easy one this time.

bazza: 咭 is a Cantonese slang for card. It's pronounced as gat or kit or gaat or kaat (Mandarin: ji1). HK people tend to use that more instead of 牌. It might have been a loanword (English: card). However, both are interchangeable for the Cantonese. Take note that it's only used in spoken canto. Written canto uses: 牌 or 卡

Here's some compounds:

信用咭 - seon yung kaat -credit card. note the mandarin: 信用卡

咭片 - kaat pin - business card

賀咭 - ho kaat - greeting card

提款咭 -tai fun kaat bank atm card

閃咭 - sim kaat---simcard or flashcard

How common is 咭 used? It seems to be from the Cantonese.

Card #4 Translation:

Get out of jail free

This card may be kept

until needed, or sold

监狱 [jiān yù] - prison

通行证 [tōng xíng zhèng] - travel permit

此 [cĭ] - this

咭 [jī] - card

可 [kĕ] - can/may

保存 [băo cún] - save

自用 [zì yòng] - personal use

或 [huò] - or

出售 [chū shòu] - sell

sushan, I posted the properties here:

http://chinesepod.com/connections/viewpost/bazza/connect/Finally+got+Chinese+Monopoly+%3A%29

Hi sushan,

Almost! The most traditional “三好学生” is required to be “思想好，学习好，身体好”, but I hear that its concept has been slightly modified these days. In other words, just satisfying three requirements might not be enough anymore in present Chinese society.

I always like reading the place names on the various versions of Monopoly (Canadian Monopoly has Jasper Avenue and St. Albert Trail, for example). I hope you can post the place names as well.

That whole 三好学生 (body, mind, character if I am not mistaken) practice would make a great lesson topic too.

That is cool, bazza :)

Hi pituitaryadenoma,

Thanks, I got it. It seems that anything goes not only in Chinese society, but also in Chinese language! I don’t think this game will contribute to producing 三好学生, but I’m sure that it is very good for fostering capable merchants.

Anyway, it is very interesting. Next card, please!

Card #4:

Card #3 Translation:

Take a ride to Chongqing Station

If you pass Go collect ￥2,000

乘车到 [chéng chē dào] - ride vehicle to

重庆火车站 [chóng qìng huŏ chē zhàn] - Chongqing train station

如果 [rú guŏ] - if

途经 [tú jīng] - route pass through

起点 [qĭ diăn] - starting point (Go)

则 [zé] - then

领取 [lĭng qŭ] - receive

This if real fun! Thanks, Bazza. Keep them coming!

Bazza, do you have Chinese Scrabble (Chinese Squabble)? After you have bought all of Shanghai's deluxe apartments in the sky and collected all of Chinese Monopoly's 钱, you can buy Squabble :)

If only there was an edit option, or even just a preview.

I'll try a bit of html on this one, hopefully it will work. Card #3:

That would mean I'd have to scan them all and rub out the English, and it would be harder because you wouldn't be able to use translation tools. ;)

Here''s a request I know you can meet, bazza...how about posting a picture of the monopoly card you are posting so we have more visual input; it will enhance our learning : )

It is 损款, it is right in that context. Because when you play monopoly, your job is not to lost money, you job is to make as much as you can, when you unfortunately get a card that ask you to donate to charity, you are actually losing money in the game, there is no such thing as an act of kindness in such a game, it is about winning or losing. Therefore, when you "donate" under such a circumstances, it is no longer considered as 捐, rather it is considered 损 from that player standpoint.

So 向～损款 is grammatically CORRECT.

Chinese words are very flexible, it can be used in almost any kind of combination of characters (hanzi or kanji). The rule of right or wrong is highly dependent on the context or situation.

Card #2 translation:

Life Insurance Matures Collect ￥1000

寿险 [shòu xiăn] - life insurance

到期 [dào qī] - become due

领取 [lĭng qŭ] - receive

I get it. It's a game.

Anyway, "向～损款 (sun3 kuan3)" is perhaps not grammatically correct, I suppose. I look forward to your next "monopoly" posting. I think it's interesting.

It might be because normally you have a choice to donate, but in the game you're forced to.

Hi bazza,

I believe that it is a typical mistake (or typo) due to similarity in shape between two Chinese characters. It cannot be 损款 (sun3 kuan3) in the context of the sentence, unless it is intentional (as a joke), since even 捐款 (donation), of course, always means “to lose money” to you. Oh, I know, people sometimes donate for tax-reduction strategy.

It definitely says 损款 on the card.

Guys,

Not 损款 (sun3 kuan3),

but 捐款 (juan1 kuan3).

All the money is 10 times as much, you 2000 for passing go and a hotel on Dongshan (Mayfair equivalent) is 20,000 rent. :)

1000 yuan for insurance? That's a LOT more than in the English edition, no?

Here is a Community Chest (社会基金) one:

寿险到期领取￥1000

The English translation is:

Donation to charity organisation pay ￥150

向 [xiàng] - to

慈善机构 [cí shàn jī gòu] - charity organisation

损款 [sŭn kuăn] - lose funds

So...pay 150 yuan to charity? These are interesting, keep 'em coming!