Christian Agenda and 88groups

I am not interested in reading the bible in Chinese, but if these people want to, let them do it. I can't see that they are hurting anyone.

Calkins! I can see the Comments Policy directly below where I type a comment. A link is not a comment. Bazza! You have contributed a lot to C-Pod. I have found you selfless in providing assistance and insight to many fellow poddies. Xie xie ni Pipsy

I don't have any problem with any group's content so long as it is member-created, member-driven, and voluntarily populated. I would have a bigger problem with such content automatically being delivered in a series of, say, Elementary lessons.

Pipsy, I agree with you in terms of people proselytizing on Cpod. However, insofar as 88goups goes, nobody makes you join a group; and who knows, you might pick up some useful terms, if for no other purpose, than simply to recognize what conversations to avoid.

I agree with frank and tvan. 88groups is a tool to learn/improve your Chinese, nothing else. I'm pretty sure that bazza is not trying to convert anyone to Christianity. goulniky's 88news may have news stories with content that not everyone agrees with, but he's not trying to make you believe the news he shares. Again, it's just another avenue for improving your Chinese. Like tvan says, nobody makes you join a group. If you don't like a certain group, ignore it and try to find one you like. Or find other means that are more suited to your beliefs. But please don't say what is good or bad for someone else.

Yeah I'm not even Christian myself, I don't even believe in God. I just think it's a pretty easy story to read in Chinese.

To clarify, there is no group called "Christian Agenda." As a "believer," I agree that the group should stay on-topic, and if it happens to spawn discussions related to the subject matter contained in the Bible, then they should be taken elsewhere. I've seen too many of these discussions spiral out of control. They go on for days (or weeks or months), everybody gets offended, and in the end no one is converted from one side to the other. As a wise man once said, "If you start slinging mud, not only do you get your hands dirty, but you also lose a lot of ground." We are all friends here, and I would like for it to stay that way. :)

It's only intended as a way to improve your range of vocab. The Chinese version seems to use modern day language compared to the English version.

I have no objection to anyone studying any religion in any language. If that is what they choose to do fine. If 88groups was just posting more resources for learning Chinese I think that would be fine. If I posted links to anti christian texts in chinese (which I would not do) would that be fine? What does member-created, member-driven and voluntarily populated imply? I did not say anything was good or bad! It is easy to send a personal message or email to those you know are interested in such a subject. This is not a personal attack on any member of CPod, nor 88groups! Wo3 shen2 jing1 bing4! Pipsy

Wow...this is a pretty emotional conversation here. I don't think it's really necessary to argue about this so much. I never thought that having the Bible in Chinese would turn into such a controversy, but maybe it's just the way I think. For example...there was a lesson on smoking and since I don't appreciate that particular topic then I just didn't click on it. What is really the problem here? If you don't like a certain topic....just avoid it instead of trying to start a rebellion against it. No-one is forcing anybody to join anything by providing options. It's pretty obvious that CPod is home to people from all sorts of different backgrounds. Everything available will not appeal to Everybody's interest! Live and let live!

Why not pipsy????

Neither do I have a problem with it! I just not see how C-Pod as being the right place for posting such things. That's the long and the short of it for me :-)

Pipsy, that's the beauty of forums like this! You can express your thoughts/beliefs about something. Some will agree, some will not (neither makes you right or wrong). Freedom of expression is a wonderful thing (and I believe it is necessary for attaining knowledge).

I just wanted to make people aware the group existed as I was the only member a couple of days. Everyone else plugs their 88groups on here. :P

Calkins, I completely agree with what you just said. Now what can you and what can you not post links to?

Bazza, I don't think you need to apologize, I love the crazy things you do or say, very creative and stimulating

bazza, I plugged my 88group and it doesn't even work!

pipsy, this is straight from the "Comments Policy": Allowed comments do not necessarily represent the views of ChinesePod.com. We also reserve the right to reject personal attacks, false/unsubstantiated allegations, and comments that include vulgar language or libelous statements. Other than that, I guess it's up to the discretion of ChinesePod.

And if you're wondering what all the fuss is about. http://www.88groups.com/chinese-bible-chapters ;)

"What does member-created, member-driven and voluntarily populated imply?" No implication intended! I thought I was pretty clear! If like-minded users want to study a particular subject and they're able to opt-in or opt-out as they please, I have no problem with it. That's the long and the short of it. :-)