Qing Wen Requests
amber
October 08, 2008, 07:38 AM posted in General DiscussionHey everybody,
Just thought I would add a thread here for everyone to voice their requests for Qing Wen topics.
Qing Wen is the show where we take a grammar point, a vocabulary usage, or interesting part of the Chinese language and break it down for you with fun examples so you can see how it's used in real life Chinese. If you're not familiar with it, you can check it out here.
Feel free to ask away. And yes, we know everyone wants 了 (le) most of all, but it's hard to cover in a Qing Wen format! Everything else is fair game! :D
amber
October 14, 2008, 09:24 AMThese are all great, guys. We have a great new huge list of topics now! Stay tuned.
jazz
October 08, 2008, 09:39 AMHi Amber,
This one may be as complicated as "le", but it's one I keep coming up against and I'd love to understand a bit more about the meaning of 得(dé).
For example, as in:
你中文说得这么好
or
你可以说得慢一点吗
Chinese Pera-kun tells me it could mean (deep breath): "obtain, get, gain, proper, suitable, proud, contented, allow, permit, ready, finished" which rather suggests a mystery beyond the understanding of an Elementary.. but any insights you could offer would be gratefully received!
daimingwei
October 08, 2008, 09:50 AMHey Amber,
Hope you had a great holiday. Here are some suggestions....
1. bushi....jiu shi pattern (either...or)
e.g Qiantian lai zhao nide bushi xiao wang jiu shi xiaoli.
2. Chu le....yiwai pattern (except; besides)
e.g Chu le Shanghai yiwai, wo hai gu guo Beijing he Xianggang.
3. Zhiyou....cai... pattern (only)
e.g. Zong jingli zhiyou zai chifan de shihou, cai neng xiuxi yihui'er
4. Xiang...yiyang pattern (looks like)
e.g. Ta juede ziji xiang haizi yiyang xihuan xiao wanju.
5. Lian....ye... pattern (even)
e.g. Ta Lian zixingche ye bu hui qi.
6. ....shenme de pattern (?)
e.g. Women jintian xuexi kewen, ciyu, wenhua shenme de.
7. Ruguo..., jiu... pattern (if)
e.g. Ka er ruguo hai bushufu, jiu zai xiuxi ling tian.
8. Xian..., ranhou... pattern (first, then)
e.g. Jintian women xian xuesheng ci, ranhou zai xue kewen.
That's all I can think of off the top. (ha, ha...kidding).
Actually, I pulled these from an old textbook of mine that I recently found in my bookcase. I went through it and saw that I had a lot of scribbles and questions marked besides these patterns...so I figure I didn't get my head around them back then...which is probably why I don't use them today.... :^P
Anyways, hope you find something of use/interest here.
All the best,
Peter
amber
October 08, 2008, 09:57 AMHey Peter,
Thanks, some great topics! Actually quite a few of those we have already done, you should go check the QW listing and see as well!
daimingwei
October 08, 2008, 10:16 AMThanks Amber,
I'll download the full listing and check them out!
hitokiri6993
October 08, 2008, 12:30 PMHey Amber!
Here's a good(?) suggestion.
Alphabet usage in Chinese....
Something like, 幫我去K你爸。(bang1 wo3 qu4 K ni3 ba4; help me knockout your dad).
我的LV!!! (My LV!!!)
卡拉OK (Ka3 la1 OK; Karaoke)
chipmunkgeek
October 08, 2008, 12:39 PMHey Amber -
Welcome back!
I'm sure more topics will come to mind, so I'll just post as they come. But for now, here are a few simple ones that you might be able to cover in a QW.
1. The difference between 没错 and 不错, and maybe a good way to remember when to use which.
2. Different ways to describe something as "just OK" (such as 还可以 or 马马虎虎).
3. When to use 请 versus 麻烦 when asking somebody to do something.
4. The use of 被.
5. How to know when to use 太 versus 那么 versus 真.
Thanks! ChinesePod rocks, as always.
pchenery
October 08, 2008, 02:54 PMHi Amber,
I'm not sure if you have covered this pattern on QW yet:
Budan....erqie
Bujing...hai
I would also like to request a QW that covers some common idiomatic expressions (ie: "All talk and no action"...stuff like that...).
Thanks !
sfrrr
October 08, 2008, 11:09 PMBesides the topics I've recently suggested other places, I've got another. Actually, Jazz's post reminded me--how about a QW on hen to use the Ds: di, de, and de?
amber
October 08, 2008, 07:57 AMawesome ideas henning. i think the word order one may be too huge for a little QW, but we'll see what we can do!
chipmunkgeek
October 10, 2008, 04:01 AMHere's another one. How about a QW on the usage of 让...
light487
October 10, 2008, 04:18 AMYeh I am always adding the "de" when I don't need one, and not adding a "de" when I need one.. and also getting the order mixed up as it seems to be the reverse of whatever I think. Even when I reverse what I think, to counteract this, I end up reversing the reversal and end up doing it bakwards again..
People say "de" is easy.. but it's actually one of the more subtle usage words in the language that is actually quite elusive to understand.. it's a very sneaky thing.
Like.. "the manager of a company" is the correct way.. so <manager> de <company>.. even though the de is the possessive equavilant of the 's you don't use it in the same order. In english it would be " the company's manager" but in Chinese it is like above.
anyway.. I think I am close to understanding this.. but then.. may be I am not as close as I thought.
ewong
October 10, 2008, 04:47 AMwhat to use when comparing 更 or 比較
ajcee
October 11, 2008, 05:51 PMWhat about how to use 把？
RJ
October 11, 2008, 07:19 PMba (把) is covered in this Qing Qen episode:
http://chinesepod.com/lessons/ending-your-sentence-with-%E5%90%A7-ba/discussion
RJ
October 11, 2008, 08:26 PMyoure right Xiaohu, its usually the modal particle that causes all the confusion. I assumed that was what he meant. I guess Im still wondering if the suggestion was for 把 or 吧 even though the former was written. Anyway, my apologies.
ewong
October 14, 2008, 07:10 AMRules on last and next
I just made this mistake yesterday.. saying "last week" and "next week"
last week as 去週 instead of 上週，because I know that last year is 去年。
while yesterday is 昨天，
last month is 昨月 or 上月 or 去月?
next week should be 下週 instead of 明週
next year is 明年 or can it be 下年?
next day is not 下天 but 明天 which is tomorrow
Is next month is not 明月 but 下月
joannah
October 08, 2008, 11:39 PMBesides the topics I've recently suggested other places, I've got another. Actually, Jazz's post reminded me--how about a QW on hen to use the Ds: di, de, and de?
Yes please! i have a lot of trouble with these. My teacher expects me to be able to use them but i have trouble working out how!
henning
October 08, 2008, 07:53 AMHi Amber,
what I think many of us really need is a series on word order QWs (大大小小几万家?). This ranges from really basic to really advanced questions.
Expressing time is also a fundamental issue with a broad spectrum of topics that continue to puzzle me. 比如说: 常常, 经常, 平常, or 正常? 过 vs. 了?
And last not least: Those complements. 出来， 起来， and what about 看来 vs. 来看?